jaybee Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 Odds are better than expected for a legendary. I have had 208 fights (spent 1,231 kobans on buying 9 times). That's about the number of free fights during four days. I am at 52 shards. I assumed this amount of fights to give me 15-20% of a legendary, so it's good to know that you can get 40-50% of a girl with free fights during four days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jelom Posted February 18, 2019 Author Share Posted February 18, 2019 This is the detailed info for shards drops for Fabienne 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makinen Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 (edited) Event: Legendary Days: Edwarda: 154 hits Shards: 40 (6x1, 8x2, 6x3) Other: 2x Legendary Flowers Best 20x series: 8 shards (1x1, 2x2, 1x3) and 1x flowers I'll keep editing this post with additional info, it's easier and at the end of the event i'll repost the full version. Edited February 22, 2019 by Makinen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaybee Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 249 fights - 61 shards at that point - got the 100 shard drop By that time had spent 1,505 kobans (2,030 without promotion). 12 times 1 shard, 14 times 2 shards, 7 times 3 shards - based on that would say that the chances of 3 shards are lower one 20 fight streak with 0 shards, best streak - 3 fights with shards. Best 20-fight series - 6 fights with shards, typically 2 or 3 fights with shards out of 20. Background: I have received 0 (zero) epic and legendary girls with free fights. Once tried to get an epic girl with boss fights, spent 5,400 kobans (during 35% off promotion) on fights, got nothing and stopped at that point. Since then I have never spent a single koban on boss fights - I just use the free fights and if I don't get the girl, then I don't get her (and history has shown I have never got any - my only free girls have been at 12-day events, never got any other drops anywhere. I have received 100% of 12/14-day girls for free). So my play style has been to collect kobans and use them in epic panchinko for the guaranteed 5,400 drop. I do not spend kobans on anything else. This is what I would have done at this legendary event - I would have done my 220 free fights during 4 days, not really expecting a drop and probably not getting it. The new system made me spend 1,500 (2,000) kobans that I would have otherwise saved for epic pachinko. And gave me my first legendary. Without the 100-shard drop, I would have spent around 2,500 due to the last day of the promotion to get to around 80-85 shards and then fought for three days to get to 100. During non-promotion I would look at the shard count in the final day and decide then if it is worth spending on boss fights. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lhans Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 9 hours ago, jelom said: This is the detailed info for shards drops for Fabienne <insert table here> Why are there so many people who likes making tables that are full of numbers? That's seems like too much effort in number crunching for this game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_shal_ Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 (edited) A fine question to ask in https://forum.hentaiheroes.com/index.php?/forum/8-general-discussion/, I suppose. Edited February 18, 2019 by _shal_ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yourfriend Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 495 battles to get 100 shards for legendary girl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jelom Posted February 19, 2019 Author Share Posted February 19, 2019 20 hours ago, Lhans said: Why are there so many people who likes making tables that are full of numbers? That's seems like too much effort in number crunching for this game. Why are there so many people who don't like numbers and came to these threads that are only about data recopilation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lhans Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 2 hours ago, jelom said: Why are there so many people who don't like numbers and came to these threads that are only about data recopilation? Boredom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jelom Posted February 20, 2019 Author Share Posted February 20, 2019 (edited) On 2/18/2019 at 7:12 AM, _shal_ said: On a completely different note, between finishing the revival and the start of the Legendary event I went back to Finalmecia to make some more headway towards getting her final girl - and now I'm currently sitting on a shiny 70 battle no-shards streak there. I'll report back how long that ends up being eventually once I have time to return to her. I have surpassed your mark: after getting Fabienne I am at 102 consecutive battles with Karole without a shard. 😱 Let's see how many will be in the end. new edit: ... and finally at the 117th battle i got 1 shard for Rin. I doubt than anyone will ever break this record, but at least we have tested the limits of the new system. Edited February 20, 2019 by jelom 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_shal_ Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 (edited) Fabienne completed right after the daily reset today, in: Drop# Battles BTotal Shards STotal 1 6 6 1 1 2 39 45 1 2 3 3 48 3 5 4 3 51 2 7 5 6 57 3 10 6 1 58 3 13 7 8 66 1 14 8 9 75 1 15 9 13 88 3 18 10 4 92 2 20 11 3 95 3 23 12 6 101 2 25 13 8 109 2 27 14 19 128 1 28 15 2 130 3 31 16 4 134 3 34 17 15 149 1 35 18 3 152 1 36 19 13 165 3 39 20 4 169 1 40 21 2 171 1 41 22 9 180 2 43 23 9 189 2 45 24 3 192 1 46 25 25 217 2 48 26 9 226 2 50 27 14 240 1 51 28 12 252 1 52 29 7 259 3 55 30 14 273 3 58 31 6 279 1 59 32 3 282 1 60 33 34 316 2 62 34 13 329 2 64 35 3 332 3 67 36 8 340 1 68 37 2 342 2 70 38 6 348 1 71 39 2 350 2 73 40 13 363 3 76 41 9 372 1 77 42 2 374 3 80 43 25 399 2 82 44 4 403 1 83 45 3 406 2 85 46 21 427 2 87 47 10 437 3 90 48 4 441 2 92 49 6 447 1 93 50 8 455 1 94 51 6 461 1 95 52 24 485 3 98 53 11 496 1 99 54 9 505 3 102 Averages 9.4 1.9 Slightly above-average luck in the battle counts, slightly below in the actual drop numbers. Edited February 21, 2019 by _shal_ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artill Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 624 battles to get 100 shards for legendary girl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_shal_ Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 On 2/18/2019 at 7:12 AM, _shal_ said: On a completely different note, between finishing the revival and the start of the Legendary event I went back to Finalmecia to make some more headway towards getting her final girl - and now I'm currently sitting on a shiny 70 battle no-shards streak there. I'll report back how long that ends up being eventually once I have time to return to her. Mercifully, this ended quickly now that I've returned to Finalmecia - drop on battle 72. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makinen Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 (edited) On 2/18/2019 at 10:08 PM, Makinen said: Event: Legendary Days: Edwarda: 158 hits Shards: 40 (6x1, 8x2, 6x3) Other: 2x Legendary Flowers Best 20x series: 8 shards (1x1, 2x2, 1x3) and 1x flowers I'll keep editing this post with additional info, it's easier and at the end of the event i'll repost the full version. Well, i'm off to get some sleep so these are my final stats. Didn't get the girl, but i'm on 40% progress so here's to hoping for a Revival in a couple months. Ehm... 20 shard drops in 158 attacks, so about 10-15% drop rate it seems. And of course, shards can drop multiples (average 2 for me) so that seems to match shal's numbers. Edited February 22, 2019 by Makinen Did three more :P 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClubNutte Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 Fabienne: ~200 battles 33 shards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hotless Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 (edited) 35 battles against ninja spy and not a single shard drop as of yet, i'll continue fighting him and i will update you when the first shard drops. Edited February 23, 2019 by Hotless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_shal_ Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 Early returns in my attempt to get Edna from Finalmecia: 250 battles, 8 shard drops (28 shards total). Could still just be an extended bad luck streak, but it's looking rather likely that her drop rate is far below the ~10% that have been observed for event girls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jelom Posted February 24, 2019 Author Share Posted February 24, 2019 Partial results with Karole until now: 467 battles, 27 shard drops (16 rin and 11 toshiko), 49 shards total (29 rin, 20 toshiko). This include the super long dry streak I told before. Curiously enough excluding that extremely anomalous data point, the drop rate would be around 7-8% ... that was what I guessed some weeks ago . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaybee Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 (edited) Loving Bunny revival - 128 fights to collect 104 shards. Most common shard drop 4 (5 times), 11 (4 times), 1 (3 times). 17 shard drops total. Longest streak with no shards - 10 fights. Edited February 25, 2019 by jaybee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chthugha Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 I've taken the liberty of starting shard drop rate tests on the test server... Don't mind the bottom right... it's obviously empty right now. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_shal_ Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 (edited) On 2/24/2019 at 7:23 PM, jelom said: Partial results with Karole until now: 467 battles, 27 shard drops (16 rin and 11 toshiko), 49 shards total (29 rin, 20 toshiko). This include the super long dry streak I told before. Curiously enough excluding that extremely anomalous data point, the drop rate would be around 7-8% ... that was what I guessed some weeks ago . I've begun to wonder if the three villain girls are dropping shards independently, rather than randomly from a "centralized" drop chance. My drop rate with one girl remaining on Finalmecia seems to be around 3.5%, yours with two girls on Karole around 7%... Edit: Talked to another player on Discord who needs one girl from Karole - he doesn't keep exact battle stats, but we've estimated that he's been getting drops around 4% to 4.5% of the time. Edited February 25, 2019 by _shal_ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaybee Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 Loving Lupa revival. Shard drops showed amazing intelligence, I don't think it's a completely random system. Loving Bunny revival had shard drops from 1 to 11, the longest streak without shards was 10 fights but usually I got something after every few fights. Now let's take Lupa - 106 fights, 100 shards. Bunny had 17 shard drops but Lupa only 11 drops - 10, 12, 9, 11, 7, 9, 12, 10, 9, 9, 2. As you see, very big drops only (is that something to do with the Dark Lord, that he gets bigger drops?). To compensate, there were many 10+ fight streaks without shards, the longest was 22 fights with no shards. Also an amazing coincidence that the final drop with 98 shards was suddenly 2. Based on that I would say that the system keeps track of shard drops - maybe it is a random system how many you get but if you get big drops, the system knows it and gives you more "empty" fights in-between. If you get smaller drops, you are given more fights with shards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huangover Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 I'm starting to think i liked the old system better. Not knowing how little progress being made to get a girl to drop on a day to day basis was much better than experieincing day after day of seeing no shards drop. At the rate I am experiencing, I won't get another boss girl to drop until 2020. Maybe longer. I have not gained a girl since this system has been introduced. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chthugha Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 (edited) Update on the test accounts: I won't include the 6th Revival Event girl, because I got 50 shards for her in the event pachinko on the test server... that's still possible there. Edited February 27, 2019 by Chthugha 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YummyTiger Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 (edited) 17 hours ago, Huangover said: I'm starting to think i liked the old system better. Not knowing how little progress being made to get a girl to drop on a day to day basis was much better than experieincing day after day of seeing no shards drop. At the rate I am experiencing, I won't get another boss girl to drop until 2020. Maybe longer. I have not gained a girl since this system has been introduced. Are you talking about common girls or event girls? If common, then are you saying you never went multiple weeks without one dropping before? I didn't get a drop from Finalmecia or Roko for over 2,000 battles. I was at 2,173 to be exact before the new system. I legitimately just never assumed they would drop in the old system and never went back to old bosses because it didn't seem worthwhile to get less money for girls that never dropped. With the shard system, at least I know where I stand. Still, I get that dry spells suck, and maybe the shard system makes them even worse since you know you need many more "hits." If you are talking about event girls, then really? You have not gotten one yet? I know everyone's luck is different, but everyone in my club got the event girls in this event (or at least everyone who talks which is most). Seems like the uncommons are not too bad to get, rare take around 150ish battles and legendaries 500ish? Data is still new, but it seems crazy you didn't get a single event girl in the new system if you've been battling consistently. That sucks, hope your luck improves. On the thread topic: Last event: Loving Bunny - 106 battles, 104 shards total. Loving Lupa - 127 battles, 100 shards exactly. I didn't keep detailing information, so maybe this is not too useful. Edited February 28, 2019 by YummyTiger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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