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Same here, for what it's worth.

On regular events, spending free combativity without wasting a point generally nets me about 20 shards per day, which in 5-day events is enough to net one girl, or both during 12-day events. Before the streak on Day 3, i was running 16 shards in two days and was already a fair way behind schedule, so i basically went "Oh well, not going to get the girl, but i'll keep hitting for shards anyway in case she comes by again in another event".

Sure, it sucks when it happens, but i'm not salty about it as the choice to not spend kobans remains my own.

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The mecha revival...

Lemia (Gruntt)

Drop#  Battles  BTotal  Shards  STotal
  1        2        2      2       2
  2        1        3      1       3
  3        9       12      2       5
  4        6       18      2       7
  5       11       29      6      13
  6       14       43     11      24
  7       18       61      7      31
  8        6       67      1      32
  9       13       80      8      40
 10       15       95      7      47
 11       14      109     10      57
 12        1      110     10      67
 13       19      129     11      78
 14        1      130      4      82
 15        1      131      7      89
 16        2      133      6      95
 17        4      137     11     106
Averages   8.1 (12.4%)     6.2

This was quite horrible through the first ~100 battles, before things suddenly went into overdrive and I ended up with a better-than-average result after all.

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And elsewhere...robbed Edwarda of her three girls in a test account. 788 battles, 78 drops for 306 shards (3.9 per). Drop rate clearly near 10%, and the shard drop numbers almost exactly the way one would expect to find them (Edwarda's range is 1 to 7, for an average of 4).

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Copilot revival

Dark Lord: 151 fights - 18 drops (11.9% drop chance) - 102 shards (5.7 shards per drop)
Gruntt: 163 fights - 15 drops (9.2% drop chance) - 106 shards (7 shards per drop)

Completed revivals:
128+105 (233), 212, 90+185 (275), 151+163 (314) fights

2,730 consecutive event fights without a lucky 100 shard drop

Almost the worst revival to date. Certainly the worst where I got both girls, needed to buy 60 fights to achieve that.

I have officially managed to get both girls for free during just one revival, all of the others have needed some koban spend.
In the test server 5 days and 250 fights gave me 89 shards for Gruntt. The last two days of fights barely registered, the last 100 fights gave me something like 10-15 shards.

I now officially consider revivals the worst type of events. At least with Epic Days and Legendary Days you know you have to spend kobans.
But with revivals it is possible to be lucky and get a girl with 90-100 fights. But then again you can fight 250 times and still not get anything.

The chances are totally random and just as bad as with the old drop system. You can be lucky and get a drop by the second day of the event - or still be fucked after five days of fighting, no way of knowing which.

 

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Event: Naughty Girls

Edwarda:

Day 1: 23 hits *grumbles about maintenance*

Shards: 8 (1x1, 2x2, 1x3) 

Day 2: 46 hits, 99 total *Maintenance until 4 am local time AGAIN. FFS Nutaku...*

Shards: 12 (1x2, 2x5), 20 total

Day 3: 43 hits, 142 total

Shards: 12 (1x1, 1x3, 2x4), 32 total

Day 4: 51 hits, 193 total

Shards: 33 (1x1, 1x2, 3x3, 2x4, 1x5, 1x6), 65 total

Day 5: 46 hits, 239 total

Shards: 17 (1x1, 2x5, 1x6), 82 total

Day 6: 37 hits, 276 total

Shards: 19 (1x1, 1x2, 2x5, 1x6), 101 total

*Well, finally got Chamelea after a 7-hit got me 1x2, 1x5 and 1x6. Away this weekend though, so i'm not sure if i can still grab Ridley in the time that remains* :(

Donatien:

Day 6: 7 hits

Shards: 0

Day 7: 16 hits, 23 total

Shards: 9 (1x1, 1x3, 1x5)

Day 10: 44 hits, 60 total *spent the weekend with friends, so no Venifera either*

Shards: 9 (1x1, 1x2, 2x3), 18 total

Day 11: 40 hits, 100 total

Shards: 12 (1x2, 1x4, 1x6), 30 total

Day 12: 48 hits, 148 total

Shards: 35 (1x1, 1x3, 1x4, 3x5, 2x6), 65 total

Best 20: 6 drops / 22 shards (1x2, 2x3, 2x4, 1x6) and 9 hits - 5 drops / 23 shards

 

20-8

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Yeah, tell me about it.

Wouldn't even be that bad if Nutaku didn't go and hold maintenance so half my daily attacks end up getting wasted two nights in a row as well.

Edit: And maintenance just ended for HH it seems. Got 3 drops for a total of 12 shards, so i'm... Well, still need a good couple of days since i'll be away next weekend, but still...

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That may be a big problem for you, as someone has reported to have observed that it seems that the drop rate has been altered to make sure that the players need the full 12 day to obtain both villain event girls (unless one refills combativity with his hard earned kobans). And lately this was also my experience: last month I obtained the 2nd girl more or less 30 seconds (literally) before the event end. I'm at 43/100 while writing this, so I am a little under average for now. One more time, I can only hope for the better.

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Pure chance.
My three completed classical events and fight numbers (March, April, May).

315+239 (554), 233+263 (496), 244+208 (452)

For me the first one was the worst and fight numbers have actually gone down.
This time three full days of fighting have given me 37 shards, so the drop rate is very bad. But there's room to go both better or even worse.

But definitely - 450 fights (9 days of fights) is a dream event now, 10-12 days is normal and bad luck means you have to spend kobans.

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The previous events i have had consistent drops of roughly 20-something shards per day, provided no combativity wasted (so about 45-50 hits/day). Now, on the 3rd day in, i'm averaging half of what i'd usually get for the number of hits put in.

The drop rates are the same, a little under 10% right now but still within what could be explained away as 'bad luck'. It's shards per drop that are effed for me, averaging just below 3 per drop right now.

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10 hours ago, jaybee said:

Pure chance.
My three completed classical events and fight numbers (March, April, May).

315+239 (554), 233+263 (496), 244+208 (452)

For me the first one was the worst and fight numbers have actually gone down.
This time three full days of fighting have given me 37 shards, so the drop rate is very bad. But there's room to go both better or even worse.

But definitely - 450 fights (9 days of fights) is a dream event now, 10-12 days is normal and bad luck means you have to spend kobans.

For comparison, mine were 328+294 (622), 347+273 (620), 66[full drop]+314. I dare say you've been rather lucky getting no less than four girls in under 250 battles.

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Battling Donatien on the test server right now, and just realized I've been having the weirdest drop distribution - after 29 of them, I have 87 shards for Lola, 47 for Pelagie, and for Kelina. Even with the new biasing of the drops towards girls that already have more shards that's an astounding result.

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Not a very accurate share by me, but I just reached level 350 Jackson's Crew on Nutaku and gotten one girl, 83 shards and 30 shards.
The one girl I got at a 102 total (99 --> 102), so it's a total of 215 shards dropped in 2000 attacks.

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Naughty Girls Event

Donatien, 243 battles, 32 shard drops, 101 shards for Ridley
Edwarda, 199 battles, 24 shard drops, 102 shards for Chamelea

An excellent outcome for this event. And some days left to battle Jackson's crew.

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Naughty Girls

Edwarda, 54 fights, 8 drops + 1 lucky 100 drop, 116 shards
Donatien, 236 fights, 27 drops (11.4% drop chance), 100 shards (3.7 shards per drop)

Completed classical events:
315+239 (554), 233+263 (496), 244+208 (452), 54 (lucky drop)+236 (290)

Took me 3129 fights for two lucky drops (the first one was with the legendary girl on the first day of the shard system).
This means my account has had a 0.06% chance for a lucky 100-shard drop.

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On 5/30/2019 at 11:42 AM, _shal_ said:

And elsewhere...robbed Edwarda of her three girls in a test account. 788 battles, 78 drops for 306 shards (3.9 per). Drop rate clearly near 10%, and the shard drop numbers almost exactly the way one would expect to find them (Edwarda's range is 1 to 7, for an average of 4).

Another boss cleared on the test server, with rather lucky results this time. 644 Donatien battles, 76 drops, 301 shards. 11.8%, 4.0 shards (this one again very average in his 1-7 range). On to Silvanus...

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On 6/1/2019 at 9:19 PM, Makinen said:

Event: Naughty Girls

Edwarda:

Day 1: 23 hits *grumbles about maintenance*

Shards: 8 (1x1, 2x2, 1x3) 

Day 2: 46 hits, 99 total *Maintenance until 4 am local time AGAIN. FFS Nutaku...*

Shards: 12 (1x2, 2x5), 20 total

Day 3: 43 hits, 142 total

Shards: 12 (1x1, 1x3, 2x4), 32 total

Day 4: 51 hits, 193 total

Shards: 33 (1x1, 1x2, 3x3, 2x4, 1x5, 1x6), 65 total

Day 5: 46 hits, 239 total

Shards: 17 (1x1, 2x5, 1x6), 82 total

Day 6: 37 hits, 276 total

Shards: 19 (1x1, 1x2, 2x5, 1x6), 101 total

*Well, finally got Chamelea after a 7-hit got me 1x2, 1x5 and 1x6. Away this weekend though, so i'm not sure if i can still grab Ridley in the time that remains* :(

Donatien:

Day 6: 7 hits

Shards: 0

Day 7: 16 hits, 23 total

Shards: 9 (1x1, 1x3, 1x5)

Day 10: 44 hits, 60 total *spent the weekend with friends, so no Venifera either*

Shards: 9 (1x1, 1x2, 2x3), 18 total

Day 11: 40 hits, 100 total

Shards: 12 (1x2, 1x4, 1x6), 30 total

Day 12: 48 hits, 148 total

Shards: 35 (1x1, 1x3, 1x4, 3x5, 2x6), 65 total

Best 20: 6 drops / 22 shards (1x2, 2x3, 2x4, 1x6) and 9 hits - 5 drops / 23 shards

And the stats:

Day 1: 17,4% (2 shards average) <-- limited pool
Day 2: 6,5% (4 shards average)
Day 3: 9,3% (3 shards average)
Day 4: 17,6% (3,7 shards average)
Day 5: 8,7% (4,3 shards average)
Day 6 (Edwarda): 13,5% (3,8 shards average)
Day 6 (Donatien): 0% (no shards average) <-- limited pool
Day 6 (Total): 11,3% (3,8 shards average)
Day 7: 18,8% (3 shards average) <-- limited pool
Day 10: 9,1% (2,3 shards average)
Day 11: 7,5% (4 shards average)
Day 12: 16,7% (4,4 shards average)

Totals:
Edwarda: 276 hits, 29 drops = 10,51% (3,48 shards average)
Donatien: 148 hits, 18 drops = 12,16% (3,61 shards average)
Total: 424 hits, 47 drops, 166 shards = 11,08% (3,53 shards average)

Looks average at first glance, but the final 9 hits literally gave me a number of shards only exceeded by my Day 4 total. On 5 days i didn't even total half that amount, whereas 'normally' that amount of attacks would usually land me on 20 shards per day average.

It's... not the most memorable of events, though i'd... probably have been able to get both girls if i hadn't been away during the weekend. The averages were looking like it may or may not have been attainable, so i'll be waiting for the Revival next year i suppose.

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And on to the next one:

Event: Music Party!

Gruntt:

Day 1: 50 hits

Shards: 40 (1x3, 1x7, 1x8, 1x10, 1x12)

Day 2: 50 hits, 100 total

Shards: 17 (1x3, 1x4, 1x10), 57 total

Day 3: 32 hits, 132 total

Shards: 14 (2x7), 71 total

Day 4: 20 hits, 152 total

Shards: 35 (1x11, 2x12), 106 total

Best 20: 4 drops / 32 shards (1x3, 1x7, 1x10, 1x12)

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The naughty girls event...

Ridley (Donatien)

Drop#  Battles  BTotal  Shards  STotal
  1       25       25      6       6
  2        8       33      1       7
  3        2       35      2       9
  4       25       60      6      15
  5        3       63      3      18
  6        3       66      5      23
  7        4       70      4      27
  8        3       73      3      30
  9        1       74      1      31
 10        2       76      3      34
 11        2       78      4      38
 12        2       80      3      41
 13       19       99      4      45
 14       21      120      5      50
 15        5      125      5      55
 16        8      133      5      60
 17       19      152      1      61
 18       14      166      6      67
 19       19      185      4      71
 20        3      188      3      74
 21       11      199      2      76
 22        5      204      4      80
 23       17      221      3      83
 24        6      227      2      85
 25       29      256      6      91
 26        9      265      2      93
 27       12      277      3      96
 28        1      278      6     102
Averages   9.9 (10.1%)     3.6


Chamelea (Edwarda)

Drop#  Battles  BTotal  Shards  STotal
  1        2        2      6       6
  2        6        8      2       8
  3       23       31      2      10
  4        3       34      5      15
  5        2       36      5      20
  6       15       51      1      21
  7        3       54      2      23
  8       16       70      4      27
  9       14       84      1      28
 10       21      105      4      32
 11       14      119      2      34
 12       28      147      5      39
 13        2      149      6      45
 14       13      162      1      46
 15        5      167      2      48
 16       20      187      3      51
 17        7      194      4      55
 18       11      205      2      57
 19       10      215      2      59
 20       13      228      4      63
 21        2      230      6      69
 22        4      234      5      74
 23        5      239      2      76
 24        4      243      2      78
 25        3      246      1      79
 26       10      256      4      83
 27        3      259      2      85
 28        5      264      1      86
 29       16      280      2      88
 30        4      284      3      91
 31       16      300      1      92
 32        2      302      3      95
 33        8      310      6     101
Averages   9.4 (10.6%)     3.1

Pretty meh all around. Hot start on Ridley (first 133 battles up to 60 shards) and hot finish on Chamelea (last 82 battles from 63 shards) sandwiching nearly 400 battles full of sub-mediocrity.

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On 6/14/2019 at 6:38 PM, Makinen said:

And on to the next one:

Event: Music Party!

Gruntt:

Day 1: 50 hits

Shards: 40 (1x3, 1x7, 1x8, 1x10, 1x12)

Day 2: 50 hits, 100 total

Shards: 17 (1x3, 1x4, 1x10), 57 total

Day 3: 32 hits, 132 total

Shards: 14 (2x7), 71 total

Day 4: 20 hits, 152 total

Shards: 35 (1x11, 2x12), 106 total

Best 20: 4 drops / 32 shards (1x3, 1x7, 1x10, 1x12) and 3 drops / 35 shards (1x11, 2x12)

And the stats:

Day 1: 10% (8 shards average)
Day 2: 6% (5,7 shards average)
Day 3: 6,3% (7 shards average)
Day 4: 15% (11,7 shards average) <-- limited pool

Total: 152 hits, 13 drops, 106 shards = 8,55% (8,15 shards average)

--== Historic Data ==--

Drop rates: 3,321 hits, 349 drops, 1,625 shards = 10,51% (4,66 shards average)

x100 drops (included in total stats): 2 in 3,321 hits = 0,06%
1st: Virginia (Epic), 752nd hit
2nd: Kyoto (Epic), 198th hit
3rd: Pending after 2,371 hits

Review:

So yeah, MUCH better than the other event for me. Like _shal_ in the previous event (see two posts above this one) i had an absolutely great start, followed by a middle period that was pretty meh in number of drops, though the average number of shards per managed to keep this under control. On Day 4 came three drops for a total of 35 shards, netting me the girl.

Percentage wise it was still lower in terms of drop chance, but the number of shards per drop really came through for me. Already had the other two girls from their previous event so that's it from me this round. Have some good drops all :)

Edit: Went through the entire thread and tallied up my hits, drops and shards so far. From personal experience, prior to the implementation of the shards system, i've estimated the Girl Drop Chance to be about 1%. Hope it helps!

Edit 2: In all fairness, i should mention that the 1% mentioned above is under the old system, that is to say, back when hitting took 2 points of combativity, you had less of it and it regenerated at a rate of one per hour or something. Can't really remember the numbers, but point is, 100 hits back then was about equal to 300-400 or so now.

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