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Second Chance Revival results:

Pooky (Dark Lord)

Drop#  Battles  BTotal  Shards  STotal
  1       15       15      8       8
  2        2       17     12      20
  3        5       22      2      22
  4       79      101      7      29
  5        5      106      9      38
  6       29      135      8      46
  7       10      145      8      54
  8        2      147      5      59
  9        7      154      5      64
 10        7      161     10      74
 11        6      167      9      83
 12        9      176      9      92
 13       22      198      8     100
Averages  15.2             7.7

Nicole (Gruntt)

Drop#  Battles  BTotal  Shards  STotal
  1        3        3     10      10
  2        4        7      8      18
  3        2        9     11      29
  4       19       28     10      39
  5       23       51      4      43
  6        9       60      5      48
  7        3       63      4      52
  8       11       74     11      63
  9        2       76      8      71
 10       31      107      1      72
 11        3      110      5      77
 12       21      131      3      80
 13        4      135     10      90
 14       19      154      7      97
 15       12      166      2      99
 16        4      170      7     106
Averages  10.6             6.6

That 79-battle drop on Pooky absolutely obliterated my previous worst-luck streak on event girls, which was only 44.

Nicole started off great, with 71 shards dropped after just 76 battles (although I was already into refill territory there - free combativity got me through only 60 battles after Pooky). And then I ended up needing nearly another 100 battles for the rest... So, below average results on both girls this time. 6 refills taken.
 

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52 minutes ago, ZackMacKenzie said:

Not obvious.  For a 5-day revival, like this past one, 5x48+20 = 260, a 5-day revival's maximum free combatitvity.

His numbers are fights per girl. 48 fights isn't enough to expect a girl to drop. It might happen with a lucky 100, but RNG says unlikely to happen without that.

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11 minutes ago, GeorgeMTO said:

His numbers are fights per girl.

Again, not obvious.  Was it fights per girl or fights for both girls?  If only one girl, how far did he get on the second with what remained.  When giving apples when asked for oranges, nothing is obvious.  

Also, FWIW I forgot to add the combativity that could be granted/earned from Arena challenges.  4x48+20+8 = 220.  

 

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27 minutes ago, ZackMacKenzie said:

Again, not obvious.  Was it fights per girl or fights for both girls?  If only one girl, how far did he get on the second with what remained.  When giving apples when asked for oranges, nothing is obvious.  

Also, FWIW I forgot to add the combativity that could be granted/earned from Arena challenges.  4x48+20+8 = 220.  

 

Here's the original post.

On 3/30/2019 at 2:05 PM, jaybee said:

There is some variance within players as well. My results this far (number of fights with the shard system for completed girls).

Revivals
128, 105, 212
Classic events
315, 239
Legendary
208 (100 shard drop at 52 shards)

105 and 212 is a pretty big difference.

Note number of fights per completed girl, not per completed event. Basic reading comprehension says obvious.

If you don't have that, then sure, not obvious, I'll concede that.

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Here we go again...

Event: Cameo:

Ninja Spy:

Day 1: 44 hits (Bitch)

Shards: 14 (1x2, 2x3, 1x6)

Day 2: 50 hits (Bitch), 94 total

Shards: 30 (1x1, 5x2, 1x3, 2x5, 1x6), 44 total

Day 3: 44 hits (Bitch), 138 total

Shards: 20 (1x2, 1x3, 1x4, 1x5, 1x6), 64 total

Day 4: 48 hits (Bitch), 186 total

Shards: 27 (1x1, 1x2, 1x3, 3x5, 1x6), 91 total

Day 5: 29 hits (Bitch), 215 total

Shards: 13 (2x1, 1x5, 1x6), 104 total

Donatien:

Day 5: 16 hits (Malina)

Shards: 14 (2x2, 2x5)

Day 6: 43 hits (Malina), 59 total

Shards: 6 (1x6), 20 total

Day 7: 45 hits (Malina), 104 total

Shards: 27 (3x2, 1x3, 3x4, 1x6), 47 total

Day 8: 51 hits (Malina), 155 total

Shards: 33 (4x1, 2x2, 1x3, 2x5, 2x6), 80 total

Day 9: 44 hits (Malina), 199 total

Shards: 6 (1x2, 1x4), 86 total

Day 10: 44 hits (Malina), 243 total

Shards: 7 (1x3, 1x4), 93 total

Day 11: 43 hits (Malina), 286 total

Shards: 8 (1x2, 2x3), 101 total

Biggest drought: 58 hits

Best 20: 6 drops / 20 shards (3x2, 1x3, 1x5, 1x6) and 5 drops / 21 shards (1x1, 1x3, 1x5, 2x6)

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Did 648 battles against Dark Lord across a variety of (otherwise dormant) test server accounts recently - 73 shard drops for a rate of 11.3%, or 8.9 battles per drop. If his drop rate is set to higher than the "normal" 10% it's probably not by much.

Before anyone asks, I didn't bother to track the actual shard amounts here, as I have seen no reason to doubt the official word that they're simply evenly distributed between the min and max numbers. One comment related to those numbers, though: I had no full 100 drop in these 648 battles.

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a long time without posting my results

Cameo Event

Donatien, 242 battles, 30 shard drops, 104 shards for Malina
Ninja Spy, 163 battles, 26 shard drops, 101 shards for Bitch.

A very good result, I had more than 4 days left from the event. ;)

I have also finished with Karole
 

917 battles, 60 shard drops, 100 shards for Rin
624
battles, 49 shard drops, 100 shards for Toshiko

And with Derri they are five new girls for the Harem 😎

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Extremely successful event for me - only took 10 days to get both girls. (Strange how extreme success in the old system would have been 2-3 days for two girls and with 10 days I would have screamed bloody murder - but now 10 days is definitely an immense achievement.)

Cameo Event
Donatien - 233 fights - 29 drops (12.4% drop rate) - 102 shards (3.5 shards per drop)
Ninja Spy - 263 fights - 27 drops (10.3% drop rate) - 102 shards (3.8 shards per drop)
Especially lucky for Ninja, as those 263 fights include my longest ever dry spell of 56 fights.
Daily drop rates are still very varied, between 4-16% of the fights yielding shards.

This compares to last event's 315+239 fights to get two girls.

I have now had 1,689 consecutive event fights without getting a 100 shard drop.

 

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On 4/1/2019 at 5:16 AM, Makinen said:

Here we go again...

Event: Cameo:

Ninja Spy:

Day 1: 44 hits (Bitch)

Shards: 14 (1x2, 2x3, 1x6)

Day 2: 50 hits (Bitch), 94 total

Shards: 30 (1x1, 5x2, 1x3, 2x5, 1x6), 44 total

Day 3: 44 hits (Bitch), 138 total

Shards: 20 (1x2, 1x3, 1x4, 1x5, 1x6), 64 total

Day 4: 48 hits (Bitch), 186 total

Shards: 27 (1x1, 1x2, 1x3, 3x5, 1x6), 91 total

Day 5: 29 hits (Bitch), 215 total

Shards: 13 (2x1, 1x5, 1x6), 104 total

Donatien:

Day 5: 16 hits (Malina)

Shards: 14 (2x2, 2x5)

Day 6: 43 hits (Malina), 59 total

Shards: 6 (1x6), 20 total

Day 7: 45 hits (Malina), 104 total

Shards: 27 (3x2, 1x3, 3x4, 1x6), 47 total

Day 8: 51 hits (Malina), 155 total

Shards: 33 (4x1, 2x2, 1x3, 2x5, 2x6), 80 total

Day 9: 44 hits (Malina), 199 total

Shards: 6 (1x2, 1x4), 86 total

Day 10: 44 hits (Malina), 243 total

Shards: 7 (1x3, 1x4), 93 total

Day 11: 43 hits (Malina), 286 total

Shards: 8 (1x2, 2x3), 101 total

Biggest drought: 58 hits

Best 20: 6 drops / 20 shards (3x2, 1x3, 1x5, 1x6) and 5 drops / 21 shards (1x1, 1x3, 1x5, 2x6)

A long one this time.

My drop rate for Ninja Spy:
Day 1: 9,1% (3,5 shards average)
Day 2: 20% (3 shards average)
Day 3: 11,4% (4 shards average)
Day 4: 14,6% (3,9 shards average)
Day 5: 13,8% (3,3 shards average)
Total: 13,95% (3,5 shards average)

My drop rate for Donatien:
Day 5: 20% (3,5 shards average) -- Low pool, 16 attacks
Day 6: 2,3% (6 shards average)
Day 7: 17,8% (3,4 shards average)
Day 8: 21,6% (3 shards average)
Day 9: 4,5% (3 shards average)
Day 10: 4,5% (3,5 shards average)
Day 11: 7,0% (2,7 shards average)
Total: 10,84% (3,3 shards average)

Event Total: 501 attacks, 205 shards = 12,18% drop rate, 3,36 shards average.

So yeah... Event was going great, and it's as if on Day 9 the RNG up and decided there had been enough Malina drops, and my rate basically plummeted to less than half of what i'd been averaging (not counting an outlier on Day 6 due to a 33 no-shard streak that day).

Got both girls, but yeah... Going from 8 consistently good days to 3 consistently bad ones does feel... suspect, if you'll pardon the expression :/

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18 hours ago, Makinen said:

Got both girls, but yeah... Going from 8 consistently good days to 3 consistently bad ones does feel... suspect, if you'll pardon the expression :/

Funny thing, if i remember right i got Malina at day 5, i had 70+ shards for Bitch at day 8, and then i finally got her after 3 unlucky days... 😆

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Cameo Event results:

Bitch (Ninja spy)

Drop#  Battles  BTotal  Shards  STotal
  1        1        1      4       4
  2       13       14      1       5
  3       22       36      4       9
  4        6       42      5      14
  5       12       54      4      18
  6       27       81      5      23
  7        2       83      2      25
  8       12       95      5      30
  9       12      107      4      34
 10       10      117      1      35
 11       17      134      1      36
 12       19      153      4      40
 13       16      169      3      43
 14        8      177      2      45
 15       14      191      4      49
 16        1      192      5      54
 17       11      203      5      59
 18       14      217      1      60
 19        1      218      5      65
 20        3      221      2      67
 21        6      227      4      71
 22        5      232      3      74
 23       11      243      6      80
 24       33      276      1      81
 25       28      304      3      84
 26        4      308      3      87
 27       25      333      5      92
 28        3      336      2      94
 29        6      342      5      99
 30        5      347      1     100
Averages  11.6 (8.6%)      3.3

Malina (Donatien)

Drop#  Battles  BTotal  Shards  STotal
  1        5        5      6       6
  2       16       21      6      12
  3        5       26      2      14
  4       10       36      2      16
  5        4       40      1      17
  6       21       61      3      20
  7        3       64      1      21
  8        2       66      1      22
  9       13       79      5      27
 10        3       82      4      31
 11        3       85      6      37
 12        2       87      5      42
 13        8       95      1      43
 14        5      100      2      45
 15        2      102      1      46
 16        9      111      4      50
 17        4      115      2      52
 18        7      122      4      56
 19        8      130      6      62
 20       21      151      1      63
 21        1      152      3      66
 22       12      164      6      72
 23        1      165      2      74
 24        2      167      4      78
 25        9      176      3      81
 26       51      227      2      83
 27       13      240      2      85
 28        2      242      1      86
 29       10      252      3      89
 30       13      265      6      95
 31        8      273      5     100
Averages   8.8 (11.4%)     3.2

No single case of outrageously bad luck on Bitch, just a steady diet of worse-than-average drop streaks, leading to a pretty bad final result with over 20% more battles needed than the average.

Conversely, Malina started off really hot and I was on course to a very quick finish there - until that 51-battle streak near the end pretty much ruined the pace. Still slightly better than average in the end, but kinda meh considering that promising start. And even moreso when I'm looking at the sub-250 numbers posted by others...

At least I did have one small bit of luck at the end needing only one refill, with the final drop having come exactly on the last of the 20 battles. (Not to mention that getting 6+5 shards on that refill was very unexpected, too.)

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Event: Easter:

Gruntt:

Day 1: 41 hits (Easter Bunny)

Shards: 20 (2x2, 1x3, 1x5, 1x8)

Day 2: 48 hits (Easter Bunny), 89 total

Shards: 20 (1x2, 2x5, 1x8), 40 total

Day 3: 47 hits (Easter Bunny), 136 total

Shards: 47 (2x3, 1x4, 1x5, 2x7, 1x8, 1x10), 87 total

Day 4: 18 hits (Easter Bunny), 154 total

Shards: 17 (1x5, 1x12), 104 total

Best 20: 3 drops / 24 shards (2x7, 1x10) and 5 drops / 23 shards (2x3, 1x4, 1x5, 1x8)

 

And that's it from me for this event. Already had three girls from their previous events, Easter Bunny was 4, and the 5th is Pachinko-locked. Since i've got the last post i've edited my data in quote tags, and i'll add the per day when i have time later today.

Day 3 was absolutely amazing, 1 shard per attack on average!

The stats:

Day 1: 12,2%  (4 shards average)
Day 2: 8,3% (5 shards average)
Day 3: 17% (5,9 shards average)
Day 4: 11,1% (8,5 shards average) <-- limited pool
Total: 12,34% (5,47 shards average)

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Easter Revival results:

Hari (Dark Lord)

Drop#  Battles  BTotal  Shards  STotal
  1        2        2      4       4
  2       15       17      4       8
  3        4       21     11      19
  4        1       22      4      23
  5        8       30      8      31
  6        4       34      8      39
  7        1       35      2      41
  8        1       36      4      45
  9        3       39      4      49
 10        7       46     11      60
 11       11       57     10      70
 12        1       58      1      71
 13        1       59      3      74
 14        7       66     10      84
 15       18       84     11      95
 16       14       98      2      97
 17       13      111      2      99
 18        2      113      5     104
Averages   6.3 (15.9%)     5.8

Easter Bunny (Gruntt)

Drop#  Battles  BTotal  Shards  STotal
  1       24       24     12      12
  2        1       25      7      19
  3        4       29      1      20
  4        8       37      3      23
  5        1       38      2      25
  6        1       39      6      31
  7        2       41      3      34
  8        8       49      9      43
  9        6       55      4      47
 10       13       68      5      52
 11        1       69      5      57
 12        3       72     12      69
 13        2       74      3      72
 14        6       80     12      84
 15       10       90     12      96
 16       11      101     10     106
Averages   6.3 (15.8%)     6.6

This was a really lucky event for me, taking barely over 4 days to complete both girls. Helped by 16 combativity from league today, granted, but would have finished with no refills even without that bonus. Three instances of back-to-back-to-back shard drops probably won't be happening to me again anytime soon.

Pretty interesting contrast to the last 5-day revival where I needed 198+170 battles to collect the two girls, over 70% more than this time.

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And meanwhile...

Edna (Finalmecia)

Drop#  Battles  BTotal  Shards  STotal
  1        4        4      1       1
  2       18       22      5       6
  3       72       94      3       9
  4        9      103      4      13
  5       49      152      5      18
  6       17      169      1      19
  7       28      197      3      22
  8       28      225      5      27
  9       29      254      3      30
 10       55      309      3      33
 11       19      328      2      35
 12       14      342      2      37
 13       40      382      5      42
 14        6      388      5      47
 15        9      397      4      51
 16       10      407      3      54
 17        9      416      5      59
 18        4      420      4      63
 19       16      436      1      64
 20       20      456      3      67
 21       35      491      2      69
 22        6      497      2      71
 23       21      518      4      75
 24        3      521    100     175
Averages  21.7 (4.6%)      3.3 (before the 100)

Because I've become pretty sick of not making any headway in acquiring the remaining girls from the three late bosses (with the next world already in the pipeline), I've recently started putting extra paid battles into them when there are boss contests going on, basically treating the contest winnings as a combativity discount offer. In other words, I'm aiming to buy exactly as many extra battles as needed to reach either 4th or 1st place. Anyway, the 100 drop last night came rather unexpected, to say the least.

Things had improved a bit towards the end from the sorry state of the first 300 or so battles (3.2% drop rate through 10 drops!), but those numbers are still pretty depressing. I think I'm going to think of the full drop as justified compensation for pain and suffering. xD

As Edna was my last girl to get from Finalmecia, I'm completely done with her now. The final tally: 451 for Zoe + 330 for Salem + 707 wasted battles under the old system, plus these 521 for Edna = 2009.

I needed to refill a bit more for yesterday's boss contest after the Edna surprise, so I also went back to Roko for the first time since late December. I can't say I was too surprised to straight away need 45 battles for the first drop... I've got two more girls to get here (only managed Noomye pre-shards), so this'll be another while. Meanwhile, on Karole I'm currently at 28 drops (54 shards) in 639 battles, or 4.4%.

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To mitigate these fantastic results - in this non-serious forum-oriented account I still have three boss girls unclaimed from Gruntt. So around 230 fights for Eastern Bunny have given me 53 shards + an unknown number of shards for the three boss girls. So the three boss girls really screw up any sort of chances for event girls.

Final results:

Easter Evet Revival
Grunt, ca 250 battles, 75 shards for Easter Bunny (+uncounted number for three boss girls)

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On 4/18/2019 at 3:23 AM, jaybee said:

To mitigate these fantastic results - in this non-serious forum-oriented account I still have three boss girls unclaimed from Gruntt. So around 230 fights for Eastern Bunny have given me 53 shards + an unknown number of shards for the three boss girls. So the three boss girls really screw up any sort of chances for event girls.

Final results:

Easter Evet Revival
Grunt, ca 250 battles, 75 shards for Easter Bunny (+uncounted number for three boss girls)

I don't know about that conclusion.

If a boss has boss girls and an event girl you end up with a higher overall shard % chance, but that's not to say you aren't right to some extent. You could technically get unlucky and end up getting boss girl shards over and over and not hit many event girl shards.

I had 5 accounts with all 3 girls on gruntt and the numbers weren't skewed much. I did however end up with 1 test account that had pretty bad luck at 246 attacks to acquire bunny which had all 3 boss girls (413 attacks overall to get hari too). Even with that the boss girls didn't generally hurt anything as the numbers below show. Event girls and boss girls each have their own slice of the RNG % pie which doesn't really seem to take away from one another, you just end up with shard/attraction events occurring more often.

results event girl + boss girls.png

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Anyway here are my overall results from the event across 8 accounts.  Only included overall percentage of shard rate, but you can figure out individual girls without much trouble.

I guess the only thing I really left off was average attacks to acquire each girl. 2499/16 = 156.18, which funny enough fits right in with my guesstimates all along lol. Results were all over the place from 201 to 413, though if we ignore both the best and worst results, it leaves a much more reasonable area of 263-355. Pretty much goes along with my guesstimates of 0-5 refills..

 

 

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Event: Legendary Days.

Day 1: 20 hits (was away all day)

Shards: 0

Day 2: 40 hits, 60 total

Shards: 7 (2x2, 1x3), 7 total

...And a Legendary Necklace (1,200 Aff)

Pretty sure i'm not going to get her at this rate: I'll be lucky to hit 15 shards.

Day 3: 38 hits, 98 total

Shards: 3 (3x1, 1x2, 1x3), 15 total

...And a Legendary Panties (1,500 Aff)

Day 4: 51 hits, 149 total

Shards: 7 (1x1, 3x2), 22 total

...And a box of Legendary Chocolates (950 Aff)

 

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