MaybeRegret Posted November 12, 2021 Share Posted November 12, 2021 So I need 8700 gems to raise the mystic girl to level 500 and books instead of just books. Will it make this game more inclusive? And how long will it take to grind this amount? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philbert Posted November 12, 2021 Share Posted November 12, 2021 This is insane. Instead of fixing the glaring issues with the game, (packages/bundles still in Euros, game still loads slowly, etc.) they literally just keep adding on new features. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jelom Posted November 12, 2021 Share Posted November 12, 2021 Cannot we have a single quiet day? What really give me chills is this: 6 1 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaybeRegret Posted November 12, 2021 Share Posted November 12, 2021 4 minutes ago, Xemnas said: My very first thought is that we are having this level raise in preparation for the skills (something like: your girl needs to be lvl... to have this). But how will it help? You can just use the existing 500 levels. Instead of level 100, use level 80, etc. It's just another scarce resource that will force you to donate. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lumpi46 Posted November 12, 2021 Share Posted November 12, 2021 9 minutes ago, Liliat said: Does it mean you can't level up your harem until you collect enough gems to awaken beyond 450? No, that means you can't level up your harem until you collect enough gems to awaken beyond 50, 100, 150, 200, 250, 300, 350, 400 AND 450 (and so on). I couldn't collect enough gems to test if you have to awaken every girl or several at once. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lepidocter Posted November 12, 2021 Share Posted November 12, 2021 (edited) To me it does sound fitting. Collect X gems to have a girl (A SINGLE GIRL!) untap his level cap. A new girl is naturally capped at level 50 or your, the lowest. Spend gems to rise the cap. Spend books to rise the level. Just that. Low level players can now unlock potential for a girl, boosting her with books and go beyond the natural level cap . If the preview is correct, the first tier of a season give you 100 gems. That's mean a newbie can immediatedly unlock the potential of his starters and get an edge. Fun. In the meanwhile, I suppose the drop rate will be enough to max out a reasonable number of girls, but not all of them. This concurr with the logic of having a select number of girls and not a fully maxed out harem for the sake of. As for high level players I dunno how this thing can change your game. You cannot simply max out any girl the exact moment you'll collect her, and maybe your routine become less automatical. To me, sound a bit positive, but try to prove me wrong. Edited November 12, 2021 by lepidocter 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lumpi46 Posted November 12, 2021 Share Posted November 12, 2021 2 minutes ago, lepidocter said: To me, sound a bit positive, but try to prove me wrong. I won't, Kinkoid surely will 😜 2 10 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lepidocter Posted November 12, 2021 Share Posted November 12, 2021 17 minuti fa, Lumpi46 ha scritto: I won't, Kinkoid surely will 😜 ...while they count money you're continually throwing at them despite your rantings 41 minuti fa, MaybeRegret ha scritto: So I need 8700 gems to raise the mystic girl to level 500 and books instead of just books. Will it make this game more inclusive? And how long will it take to grind this amount? You didn't understood. Is made to have me compete with you, not to have you bash someone else. Now I can rise my Legendary up to 750 and kick your mythical ass. Muahahaha. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator Kenrae Posted November 12, 2021 Moderator Share Posted November 12, 2021 2 hours ago, Kenrae said: Ok, so I need to know exactly what this sentence means, because it's ambiguous and the feature would be very different one way or the other: Quote Every 50 levels you will be able to level a girl using special gems which correspond to the Element of every girl Will the gems *really* level up a girl or will they only increase their level cap, thus still needing books to level them up? Ok, it seems the gems don't level up the girls and they only increase their cap. So that sentence is false. I guess I should be happy, I'll have more free time after leaving this game. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liliat Posted November 12, 2021 Share Posted November 12, 2021 So, trying to summarize (!! Everything below may or may not be correct !! It's just what I understand so far. But I'm not able to fully test this on the test server, because I'm too low level): - 8 new ressources; avg ~25 per day each (Max. 50?), from various sources (Villains, daily quests, Pvp, Events...). - All girls are now locked to lvl 50 by default (Instead of "your player level"). So that's good for players < 50, bad for everyone else - Costs for reaching lvl 200+ go from 260 Gems (Common, 10 days) to 2600 Gems (Mythic, 104 Days; 3.5 Months) - Costs for reaching lvl 350+ go from 570 Gems (Common, 23 days) to 5700 Gems (Mythic, 228 Days; 7.5 Months) - Costs for reaching lvl 500+ go from 1070 Gems (Common, 43 days) to 10700 Gems (Mythic, 428 Days; 17 Months) - Costs for reaching lvl 700+ go from 2370 Gems (Common, 94 days; 3 months) to 23700 Gems (Mythic, 948 Days; 2.5 Years) And that's to be multiplied by the number of characters you want to level up (Although you can do 8 girls in parallel, because they use different gems). So, again, to take my own case as an example (Lvl 350 player), I have 4 Mythics and 17 Legendary 5* girls available for PvP. Assuming they are properly balanced in terms of elements (which they are obviously not ), it would take me 7 Months to "Awaken" my Legendary girls to 350+ (So I can just level them up again), and another 7.5 Months to start leveling up my mythic girls. So, 7 months without being able to make any progress at all, and 14 months without making progress on Mythic girls. Then I'll be allowed to make progress towards lvl 400, and then I'll be stuck again for just as long. And I don't even want to try and calculate how much time it would take to max out all 900 girls; because I think we'd have to start using centuries as a base unit. This also means that 5* Common, Rare and Epic girls will probably need to be "Awoken" first, as they're much cheaper and not that much weaker. So will we be seeing full-common pvp teams? Will Gwenaelle and Geekette become the 2 strongest girls in the Haremverse? Did I understand the new mechanics correctly? Maybe I was optimistic in my first message, when I said that "Maybe it is a good change". Or did I vastly underestimate the number of gems we can obtain from the various sources? (Maybe only the daily contest is 25/50 and other sources are more generous? That would mean some elements are harder than others to Awaken). Or did I overestimate the cost? Oh, but the good news is: books are no longer an issue. We won't be able to use them for the next couple of years anyway 1 1 2 1 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jelom Posted November 12, 2021 Share Posted November 12, 2021 (edited) You are wrong, girls will be locked to your level as always. You only need to awaken if you want them to be over your current level. Edited November 12, 2021 by jelom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liliat Posted November 12, 2021 Share Posted November 12, 2021 il y a 1 minute, jelom a dit : You are wrong, girls will be locked to your level as always. You only need to awaken if you want them to be over your current level. Are you sure about that? Lumpi46 was saying the opposite a few messages above; he wasn't able to level up any girl because he can't awaken them enough (And he has to start awakening from lvl 50, even though he's level 454) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MegaStallion Posted November 12, 2021 Share Posted November 12, 2021 2 minutes ago, jelom said: You are wrong, girls will be locked to your level as always. You only need to awaken if you want them to be over your current level. have you tested it on the test server? Girls are NOT locked to your level and they need to be awaken every 50 levels (even when you are 500 and the girl is 1 you need to awake her at 50, 100, 150 etc etc). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator FinderKeeper Posted November 12, 2021 Author Moderator Share Posted November 12, 2021 My test server account is lvl 138. I have a lvl 50 girl: 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jelom Posted November 12, 2021 Share Posted November 12, 2021 Ok, I am not in the test server to verify it so surely I am wrong and you have to awaken every girl starting at level 50 regardless of your player level. If that is the case then it would be the worst change ever in the game. 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
natstar Posted November 12, 2021 Share Posted November 12, 2021 If things are getting harder for people near max level imagine how bad it will be for new or low level players. all these changes made trying to make more money will instead make people quit making less money. make changes to make the game easier not harder. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xemnas Posted November 12, 2021 Share Posted November 12, 2021 (edited) I guess this answer to the question: Should you use your books before the change? HELL YES Now the second important question: Do we have any hints/idea when the change is gonna fall upon us ? Maybe even the next patch ? Ho much time we have to think about it ? Edited November 12, 2021 by Xemnas 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jelom Posted November 12, 2021 Share Posted November 12, 2021 @Xemnas made me remember this the other day with his comment of how we are being slowly crushed 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saradis Posted November 12, 2021 Share Posted November 12, 2021 (edited) The last patchphase was short, 2 weeks or so max. I just remember that I was surprised how fast it went online after being on the ptr and there was no prior warning either. So I would spend the books now. I for myself will wait for the next competition requiring giving the girls xp that hits and spend everything I have. If this takes longer than 5 days I will spend it either way. And the problem here is the same as with the moneynerf in general. Once this hits it will take newer players considerably longer to level up girls, bolster their teams and win in competitions while people playing longer already have a big preexisting roster as backup.... Edited November 12, 2021 by Saradis 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator FinderKeeper Posted November 12, 2021 Author Moderator Share Posted November 12, 2021 So far test server was more about stability and less about feedback about new features. Personally I'm going to level as many mythics and 5* legendaries as I can before next wednesday. 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
natstar Posted November 12, 2021 Share Posted November 12, 2021 (edited) We almost have 1000 girls in the game, It already feels like a job just spamming affection gifts on the new mythic girl they add every month then you have to pay ymen on top of that then go back to spamming gifts people have other things to do than upgrading girls and with the blessing system it makes you upgrade even more girls than the old system porn based games should not be a grind like they are making it because people can just search for porn online for free they are lucky they have some many actually playing this game not a good idea to push people into quitting. I don't know if they are trying to get people to quit the game or if they just don't play the game themselves. Edited November 12, 2021 by natstar 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator DvDivXXX Posted November 12, 2021 Moderator Share Posted November 12, 2021 (edited) https://blog.kinkoid.com/spotlight/test-server-awakening/ My feedback: Quote To make the PvP more inclusive, we have increased the level cap from 500 to level 750 for all girls. The player level remains 500lvl. No matter how you interpret the above, it cannot be healthy for the game that Kinkoid officially states such a err is "counter-truth" a word? I mean, literally anyone who knows a little bit about this game in particular should know that what will happen is the exact opposite. And that might actually be the non-official goal. To be clear, players currently at account level 500 can currently use the one red book that isn't ridiculously overpriced, and even a great deal (but only once you're at account level 500). And get all of their 800-900+ girls to level 500 right now (if it's not done already). And then, once this update hits, they'll grab tons of gems and books at a relatively low price for their Galactus-level powers, and a day or two later, all of your already strongest opponents in D3 will have seven LEVEL 750 GIRLS on top of everything else. For those us who didn't start before 2019, though... Well, we currently can't get much value out of the good red book. And we better hurry and give up on a lot of other items to buy a crapton of books and get our harems at our current level. Because then, when this update hits, we'll need to slowly and very expensively level up those girls all the way to 750 to remain somewhat competitive. No one can seriously know this meta game and its gross imbalance that's been favoring active veterans for years and yet somehow believe that making leveling girls even more expensive and difficult than it already is will "make PVP more inclusive". Think of the level 201 newbie who won't know better, trust this aberrant statement, buy all of the upcoming real-money bundles with tons of gems and a tiny amount of books. Can you guys picture their reaction when they enter a fight with their level 750 Bunny backed up by their own level 190-ish equipment, and their orange boosters? V__v Edited November 12, 2021 by DvDivXXX 8 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic1986 Posted November 12, 2021 Share Posted November 12, 2021 16 minutes ago, natstar said: I don't know if they are trying to get people to quit the game or if they just don't play the game themselves. Would be easier to just shut it down instead of butchering the game with each update. I really don't know what they are doing here. Nerf after nerf, more grind with each "content" update. Im sorry, if there is a bigger picture i just can't see it. The only thing i can see are the despreate grabs for more money from the players. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobick Posted November 12, 2021 Share Posted November 12, 2021 2 hours ago, Lumpi46 said: Some more info (I'm lvl 454 on TS): I assume this relates to a girl in Lumpi's harem which already was at level 301-350 - to be further upgraded, the cap has to be raised. But are the 840 gems required to raise the cap from 350 to 400 or to 400 in general (i.e. from 50 to 400)? In the latter case it would take exactly as long to level up a 350er girl to 351 as it takes for a girl at level 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liliat Posted November 12, 2021 Share Posted November 12, 2021 il y a 1 minute, Bobick a dit : But are the 840 gems required to raise the cap from 350 to 400 or to 400 in general (i.e. from 50 to 400)? In the latter case it would take exactly as long to level up a 350er girl to 351 as it takes for a girl at level 1. You need to pay from 50 to 100, then from 100 to 150, then ... and then for 350 to 400. So the total cost to be allowed to spend books on your legendary girls to level them up beyond 350 is 3990. 840 is just the last step. 1 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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