EpicBacon Posted April 1, 2023 Share Posted April 1, 2023 I've been stuck on 1883 for a while now. The Dome cycle hits like a truck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kissmydick Posted April 2, 2023 Share Posted April 2, 2023 what is a good indicater of how close you are to beating a wall, say if i get it down to half hp with no boosters, can i beat it with a headband and 3 10% attack boosters? 40% 25? 10? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator Ravi-Sama Posted April 2, 2023 Moderator Share Posted April 2, 2023 (edited) 12 hours ago, Kissmydick said: what is a good indicater of how close you are to beating a wall, say if i get it down to half hp with no boosters, can i beat it with a headband and 3 10% attack boosters? 40% 25? 10? Share a screenshot of you vs. the wall, w/ the HH++ script's win % chance. There's also a headband sim script, so you can see an estimate of your win chances, before you buy/equip a headband. Should also include your TP, which wall it is, what boosters you're using, what gear you're using, and your passives. No one can really make a judgement about whether or not you can beat it, w/o more info. Also, we're just gonna compare it to our past teams and stats, to see if they're similar, to when we beat that particular wall. You should compare your stats to ours within this thread. You can search the thread w/ the wall number like "1200," "1300," "1400," etc. You'll find other players that beat it, and maybe they shared a screenshot, or info showing their stats, TP, boosters, gear, etc. In general, 6 mythic atk gear, 3 cords, and a headband are your best bet against any wall. Use mono gear, if you're lacking mythic gear. Edited April 2, 2023 by Ravi-Sama 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Der DinX Posted April 3, 2023 Share Posted April 3, 2023 Hit 1200 just recently, looks like I will stay there for a while. Will give you an update in a few Days Weeks Months 😁 4 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madman6543 Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 Yes finally cracked 1500. 2x Myth Girls at 750, rest of girls somewhere between 706 and 712. Headband of determination. was 6.19 % chance (!!) with my standard boosters (no jujubees), at 4th chance. 4 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmerB Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 (edited) I decided to use a headband and break the 1600 wall, having benefitted from quite a nice blessing, and getting some fists for this MDR (and for the next events). Before applying a headband: After putting on a headband (notice the avatar change in the pantheon opponent 😉😞 I beat it in my second attempt, with 2 cordyceps, 1 ginseng, and 1 mono gear (4 attack bonus MG, 1 Ego bonus MG). Edited April 24, 2023 by OmerB 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karxan Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 (edited) On 4/28/2023 at 1:58 PM, Karxan said: I'm @ Pantheon's Stairway, Temple 900, both my Lv & the npc team's Lv are 375. My team's ATK is 69,249, DEF 27,854, Ego 480,861, Harmony 47,950, Boosts: Ginseng Root, Cordyceps & Chlorella. Total Power 118,236. The NPC team is ATK 81,229, DEF 37,191, Ego 372,295, Harmony 68,258, Total Power 47,382. I've not cared about being stuck there for months, as i've been preoccupied with either game events or RL things. I was hoping the elements might offset the disparities, but it seems that might not make enough of a difference, though i can try. I'm wondering if i'd be better off tripling down on one boost item instead of a mix? Or just dump game cash into raising stats? I have been doing that but not exclusively. Edit; every week i update my teams for strongest girls. Should i focus my efforts when Blues are weakest? Does Pantheon change teams for weekly Blessings? @Ravi-Sama done! 9 hours ago, Ravi-Sama said: Post this in the pantheon thread. Use 3 Cords and a headband if you're stuck at a wall. Can use the headband sim script to see win chances w/o having to use a headband. Check for blessed girls in the HH: Girl Data sheet. If you already upgrade your best girls based on blessings each week, then that's all you can really do. Max out your main stat, whichever one increases Atk. Ideally, max them all obv. Try to unlock level 750. Max out 100 common girls, or as many as you can. Upgrade mythic gear, and try to get Atk ones. Check if you have better ones that you could equip instead. Fill the 6 slots -> Match your class -> Get 6 Atk ones -> choose elements... Thanks for the info & advice! Sorry i was to brain-dead to remember/think of this thread; the storm system that blew in early Friday had me effed up the whole day... My HH Hero is Lover/Charm, & i been maxing that more than the others. For going forward i'll make it my main (game) cash sink. i currently need 52 more girls @ 650 in order to open the next Leveling tier. i have been prioritizing girls by which ones i Like, but for now i'll make the shift to fast-tracking Common Girls to 750, then worry about saving/allocating Gems for the rarer girls. I try to do as much Gem farming as i can. I've been holding off of the side quests mainly to get thru the different worlds/chapters; that, & the cost in energy to gems payout seems paltry overall. I maxed out hh Messenger months ago, & afaik, it is abandoned/dead in the water with development suspended some time ago. So id welcome any gem-farming tips; we may have discussed it before, but i'll double-check my posts to see if we did. Unfortunately for me, Mythic Gear is waiting until i get a new pc; i can't do it on the garbage i'm stuck with atm. just viewing the MG Upgrade window makes it crash; whole pc crash, not just the browser. By "ATK" MGear, i presume you mean gear that either prioritizes my main stat, or dumps everything into the main stat & ignores the rest? I have a growing collecti♂n of MG, so when i can finally use MGr, the ones i don't use should be fed to the ones i'm using? I presume we can & should. I stopped selling Legendary gear to save them for feeding MGear. It occurs to me i shouldn't use MG for MGear, as most of you are probably using MG for Mythic GIRLS. i have n0 Mythic GIRLS yet. So for now just keep building up my harem & worry about stockpiling resources for MD/MDR later? Izumi 550, Regine & Pelagie are at 600; the rest are all 650. Only Regine & Pelagie are at 600; the rest are all 650. Edited April 29, 2023 by Karxan 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Der DinX Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 On 4/3/2023 at 10:24 PM, Der DinX said: Hit 1200 just recently, looks like I will stay there for a while. Will give you an update in a few Days Weeks Months 😁 Well it has been nearly a Month now, and today is the first time, the Percentage went over 0% to astonishing 0.33%. 👍 Maybe I should strikethrough Months and add >Years< to the List instead? I guess it only went up, because I spent the Millions of Ymen from th PoA Tasks on Upgrading my Harem. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator Ravi-Sama Posted April 29, 2023 Moderator Share Posted April 29, 2023 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Der DinX said: Maybe I should strikethrough Months and add >Years< to the List instead? Keep at it. Eventually, your blessed girls, mythic gear, boosters, and stats will be enough for the wall to break easily. I don't remember 1200 being difficult. I beat it when I was lvl 409, w/ just 130k TP, and my girl lvl cap was 650. Edited April 29, 2023 by Ravi-Sama 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator Ravi-Sama Posted April 30, 2023 Moderator Share Posted April 30, 2023 14 hours ago, Karxan said: i'll make the shift to fast-tracking Common Girls to 750, then worry about saving/allocating Gems for the rarer girls. Mythic Gear is waiting until i get a new pc; i can't do it on the garbage i'm stuck with atm. just viewing the MG Upgrade window makes it crash; whole pc crash, not just the browser. By "ATK" MGear, i presume you mean gear that either prioritizes my main stat, or dumps everything into the main stat & ignores the rest? I have a growing collecti♂n of MG, so when i can finally use MGr, the ones i don't use should be fed to the ones i'm using? I presume we can & should. I stopped selling Legendary gear to save them for feeding MGear. It occurs to me i shouldn't use MG for MGear, as most of you are probably using MG for Mythic GIRLS. i have n0 Mythic GIRLS yet. So for now just keep building up my harem & worry about stockpiling resources for MD/MDR later? Common girls need less gems and GXP to be upgraded to lvl 700, helping to unlock lvl 750 sooner. If I could redo how I unlocked it, I'd focus on them first. In a sense in the other games, I am getting to redo it, and that's what I do, focus on the common/starting girls first. Condolences about your PC, it seems to be a potato. I've got a couple of really fast/modern ones, that I assembled myself, w/ custom water cooling, that can support 3 monitors and a tv/projector, so I feel privileged. I remember when I was younger and had crappy PCs. You need an upgrade. Atk gear means mythic gear of your class (CH), that boosts atk up to 2% each. Mono gear that boosts the main stat is what you described. If you don't have 6 mythic gear to fill your slots, then mono gear is the alternative. Doesn't matter what abbreviation you use for it. I like calling it mythic gear or m gear, since that's shorter than mythic equipment (ME). @madahmed got roasted for using ME once in the MP thread. As long as everyone knows what you mean, it's fine. I use "M6" for mythic girls (mythic 6 stars). Just like "L5" is for legendary 5 stars. Yeah, if you have no mythic girls, then L5 girls are your strongest. Keep at it, until you feel like you can spare 10k kos and 5 SP, to get a mythic girl. They need way more resources to be maxed, 25% more gems, 150% more GXP and 414% more affection. It's worth it in the long run, but focus on L5s for now, if you can't afford M6s. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator DvDivXXX Posted April 30, 2023 Moderator Share Posted April 30, 2023 Damn, I kind of hoped the needle would at least move a little now that I've maxed out Lupa's Mom and I have the strongest possible team this week, along with 3 cordys and 6 MG pieces with my class' attack bonus, but... nope. That's whith the HB simulator: So 201k isn't enough to even get my odds above absolute zero. How high does it need to be to actually have a shot? 210k? 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator Ravi-Sama Posted April 30, 2023 Moderator Share Posted April 30, 2023 1 hour ago, DvDivXXX said: ...I have the strongest possible team this week,... 3 cordys... 6 MG pieces with my class' attack bonus... w/ HB simulator So 201k [TP] isn't enough... How high does it need to be to actually have a shot? 210k? I can answer that. Not w/ TP, but in terms of Atk. I edited the headband script's hero damage to 190k Atk, and it showed "0% w/o the X," actually a 0.0015% win chance. After increasing my atk to 205k, the highest I experienced, when I had a 35% Dom blessing, the win chance was 0.28%. I have 3 gins equipped, not 3 cords, and that might be throwing the sim off a bit, but there you go. Even w/ a decent win chance, it'd still be expensive to beat it, since worship was removed from leagues, and there's no way to stack it now. They saw 11 players beat it on HH, and was like "ah, that's enough of that, no more worship for you!" At least I'm one of the 125 players that got past wall 1900. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator DvDivXXX Posted April 30, 2023 Moderator Share Posted April 30, 2023 Thanks, Ravi. Wait something's weird, then... How come you have a "soft" 0% with 190k attack and I still get a hard 0% with 191k? Could it be that 3 gins somehow work better than 3 cordys against the final boss? Or it's just a glitch with the fight simulator vs HB simulator vs your edited attack stat while keeping much higher values in other stats than would be possible with that much attack? I mean, you have a tidbit more HP, Defense, and Harmo than I do in those screenshots, but still puny compared to the Temple's stats. It's hard to believe these tiny bumps in other stats are enough to give a shot when more attack doesn't. Maybe I should play around with different equipment just in case. I could technically get one shot at a different set of boosters exactly tomorrow morning, but I'd much rather not unless it for sure gives me a decent shot at beating this damn boss before we switch back to crappy blessings (it would mean I'd be weaker in league and I'm not sure I can afford that just when Govs will likely be making his move, not to mention missing out on all the free points from obsolete teams lingering around during the afternoon). I thought this week's blessings were pretty favorable, and I was a bit hopeful because I have the top 8 blessed girls (I can swap one of my Blues for the other blessed Orange, same total power, but also same hard 0% odds from the sim right now). 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liliat Posted April 30, 2023 Author Share Posted April 30, 2023 il y a 26 minutes, DvDivXXX a dit : Wait something's weird, then... How come you have a "soft" 0% with 190k attack and I still get a hard 0% with 191k? "Atk", not "Total power". 2 different values 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom208 Posted April 30, 2023 Share Posted April 30, 2023 DvDivXXX speaks about attack too 😉 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator DvDivXXX Posted April 30, 2023 Moderator Share Posted April 30, 2023 Yop. Just look a the value in Red (thanks to the HB sim) in my screenshot compared to that same value in Ravi's left screenshot. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liliat Posted April 30, 2023 Author Share Posted April 30, 2023 Oh, well, then it's just the other stats 😛 Attack is the most important, but in Ravi's case, there's also an extra 4k def, 25k HP, and 12k Harmony. I'm not sure the Def/HP make a difference in this case (You still die in 4.xx rounds, rounded up to 5 in both cases, and I don't think any amount of healing can bring that to 5.xx rounds, rounded up to 6), so it might be the slight Harmony buff giving more crit. Since Ravi's simulations are artificial (if I understand correctly), maybe the extra stats aren't exactly realistic (boosted with Gin, but then simulated with a Cordy on top? Something like that? So it would take 6 boosters to reproduce in reality, 3x Gin + 3x Cordy?) At least at the moment, with 2x Gin and 1x Cordy, my stats at 195k TP are quite a bit lower than Ravi's (Def, Ego and Harmony. Atk is much much much lower, but that's expected without 3x Cordy + 1 Headband). So I think his Def/Ego/Harmony stats are maybe overestimated in his simulations? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator Ravi-Sama Posted May 1, 2023 Moderator Share Posted May 1, 2023 14 hours ago, DvDivXXX said: Thanks, Ravi. Wait something's weird, then... How come you have a "soft" 0% with 190k attack and I still get a hard 0% with 191k? My slightly higher stats w/ 3 gins probably made the difference. 13 hours ago, Liliat said: "Atk", not "Total power". 2 different values Yep, I manipulated Atk, not TP. You can deduce how much TP would be needed to get that much Atk (since 1/4 TP gets multiplied in the formula), but w/e. 12 hours ago, Tom208 said: DvDivXXX speaks about attack too 😉 Nah, he said 201k wasn't enough, which was his TP, his Atk was 191.1k. 12 hours ago, Liliat said: Oh, well, then it's just the other stats 😛 Attack is the most important, but in Ravi's case, there's also an extra 4k def, 25k HP, and 12k Harmony. Yeah, my gins might've given me an extra advantage, but the sim doesn't lie. All I did was set the Atk to a certain amount, and the sim did the rest. It'd probably be more accurate to test it while un-boosted, but this just gives a general idea of what you'd need, to make the win % chances budge above impossible. It's not like 0.0015% is a good win chance anyway. I don't recommend that Div attempt to break the wall w/ these blessings. Regarding TP, 210k TP is much more favorable obv. Remember that 293.8k TP is actually what's possible. We haven't come close to that yet, b/c we haven't had simultaneous Mythic 40% & Blue Eyes 40% blessings. It'll happen one day, but we could probably break this wall w/ much less than that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom208 Posted May 1, 2023 Share Posted May 1, 2023 il y a une heure, Ravi-Sama a dit : Nah, he said 201k wasn't enough, which was his TP, his Atk was 191.1k. Il y a 15 heures, DvDivXXX a dit : Wait something's weird, then... How come you have a "soft" 0% with 190k attack and I still get a hard 0% with 191k? He spoke about Atk in his last posts 😉 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liliat Posted May 1, 2023 Author Share Posted May 1, 2023 (edited) Edit: nvm Edited May 1, 2023 by Liliat 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator DvDivXXX Posted May 1, 2023 Moderator Share Posted May 1, 2023 Yeah, I didn't go for it this time. I'll keep my stashed 79 candles from before the patch that removed them from league rewards and wait for a real opportunity. Thanks for the help and advice, folks! (I did talk about "TP" in my very first post about this, but then I talked about Attack in my later post that Liliat and Ravi quoted, when I was comparing sim predictions between Ravi's edited stats and my own. The confusion likely came from there). TP... Another acronym that feels a bit weird to me right here, even though I know the same acronym can of course be used for completely different things in different contexts and that's fine. I mean, Social Security has nothing to do with World War 2, the dumb nickname the US media created for a certain terror organization has nothing to do with the Egyptian goddess Isis, and of course "Combativity Points" have nothing to do with underage porn. And, compared to these, neither Town Portal nor Toilet Paper are quite as bad to share the "Total Power" acronym. Still, some of them I can't get myself to use. ^^ 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator Ravi-Sama Posted May 1, 2023 Moderator Share Posted May 1, 2023 What we see when someone says 210k TP: 210,000 Total Power What Div sees: 9 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator bolitho76 Posted May 4, 2023 Moderator Share Posted May 4, 2023 Could break the 1800 wall - had a ca, 2,5% Chance. Needed 83 attacks. Now I have ca. 40 worship more to get combativity. 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmerB Posted May 8, 2023 Share Posted May 8, 2023 I hit the level 1700 wall... This is with the headband simulation script on (but only two cordycapes and one chlorella): This is with full Attack MG and level 750 girls. I'm thinking that I may put a headband on this week to use the vurrent blessing. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator Ravi-Sama Posted May 9, 2023 Moderator Share Posted May 9, 2023 (edited) On 5/8/2023 at 2:37 PM, OmerB said: If you add another cordyceps, your Atk should rise to ~190k. 172.78k x 1.1 = 190k Atk That's higher than I had, when I beat it w/ 179k Atk & 187k TP. It was w/ 6 mono gear, 3 cords, and a headband. Had a 4.6% win chance. Took 7 tries. I think it'll be easier for you w/ mythic gear. Use 3 cords. Chlorella is only good vs. Champions. Edited May 9, 2023 by Ravi-Sama 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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