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1000wetdreams gives 125 of each gem on HH

this is a more detailed report of my orb use in 2021, if anybody cares. I didn't keep track of when avatars were in the pool and when not I never skipped a chance to go for a girl when someone was in my pachinko - I either pulled until the drop or until my orbs ran out (3 times earlier in the year) I count it as: January-November, 1,437 orbs spent on 20 drops (1.4% drop chance) December: 518 orbs spent on 2 drops (0.38% chance) January-December: 1,955 orbs spent on 22 drops (1.1% drop chance) I disregarded two free pulls and one sure-orbed drop mythic orbs 2021 42 - GOT 38 - GOT 1 - GOT 111 - nothing 51 - GOT 5 - GOT free pull - GOT 48 - GOT 135 - nothing 55 - nothing 50 - GOT 66 - GOT 53 - GOT 10 10% orbs 98 - GOT 55 - GOT 80 - GOT 36 - GOT 13 - GOT 61 - GOT 36 - GOT 157 - GOT free pull - GOT 47 - GOT 147 - GOT 52 - GOT 196 - GOT 322 - GOT

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Yup, I guess I shouldn't have tempted fate by stating this just yesterday: And on the next day... +10. Or rather "x10" which is what the devs should do to the Villain Objective to make this PoV reasonable. My biggest issue with this type of bad joke slash terrible design is that, to be a bit clearer about what I've been saying for some time now, the high value I give to the full PoV is ONLY for the FULL PoV: both paths to the very end. If I can only barely grab rewards up to the 2,500 points milestone, then it's even questionable whether it's worth my 3.6k kobans. We'll see if they listen to feedback, I'm definitely giving it a shot and telling CMs about it (as I'm sure other mods probably already did). And CMs are smart too. The question is whether GD will admit to the "oops we broke it again!" and fix it or not. In the meantime, I'll stick to free path in case they don't. EDIT/PS: On top of that, the free path girl was made by one their artists whose work I like the least from their current roster (and is the least faithful to the game's visual style and to the characters they draw), whereas Murane behind the koban lock was made by one of their best artists ever.

You're not alone in this, trust me (and no doubt any regular in this thread experienced exactly this quite a few times over the past few months). - Script be like "EZ PZ, brah!" - RNG be like "Whassup, fools?" ^^ ----- What a gap between #2 and #3! Unless there were some serious rushes in the final half hour, that's quite something. ----- Dude, stop wasting your talent and open an art gallery already! I'd pay top dollar (if I had any ^^) to have this beauty on a wall in my living room.

1000wetdreams 125 gemmes de chaque types

I can only advise everyone: forget about the "bonus" rewards after 2500 points ... not worth the ressources nor the time.. since the important rewards(up until 2,5k) are still achievable for free I´m not too mad about it..though I´d really want to know who at KK comes up with the points given per task .. I mean this and the pachinko one are just ....

(750-250)/50=10 3^9=19693

I ended up finishing 6th last week in D3, which was my best ever finish. My experiment was successful in that I learned some things. Mostly it's got to be 3 AM boosters or just 1. 2 was the wrong number, but I started the experiment part way in, and was doing to well in real time to not take a shot at a top 4. If I had caught the right people unboosted earlier , it could've worked. I do feel that Ic an get back to a regular top 15 using just one booster, which is okay.

Whoa! 2 MyP spins for Kanna

My first Top 1 (quite sure the next one will be in a long time). When I left the morning I had only 5 points more than the second ... it seems that it has been enough. I used for the first time AM (and 3) but it was a good investment.

Attempt #15 in D3 Info: <current league> [<last league stats>] [<personal best>] Points: 6289 [6205] [6299] Average: 20.89 [20.28] [20.58] Victories: 287/306 [290/306] [292/306] Always with a mix of legendary boosters, no mythic. Another Top 15. I'm happy that I can stabilize these results without a big effort or additional koban investment. This week I skipped a few fights. The chances to score a victory were low and I didn't need the points for the ranking so I saved the necessary kobans.

This would have been a good pov to merge the pachinko pov into and they could have given points for finishing missions and accepting places of power rewards with this one since it's pve lol

Well, I'm a lot less enthusiastic about this PoV. With free regen over 14 days, we may be able to get 3164 points. Assuming 30 Tickets per day, 10 Pantheons, and 48 Villains per day: - 30x14x3: 1260 for Champions - 10x14x4: 560 for Pantheon - 48x14x2: 1344 for Villains It's enough to complete the main path (2500 Points), but nowhere near what you need for the extended path (6500 points). If you have some stored Champions tickets, it's probably easier (So planing will be important). If you're planing on spending Kobans on Villains for the various events, it may also be easier. But otherwise, it's a lot more difficult than the first 2 events.

I think it's symptompatic of exactly that - people leaving. But worry not! I'm sure the shard limits will simply be lowered so that that sought after feeling of artificial scarcity (by the Devs, if not anyone else) will be reintroduced back into the gamer population.

I wouldn't recommend using Mythic Boosters, unless you're stuck on the next *500 level (to get the girl a bit earlier). Otherwise, you'll just force your way through one wall, just to hit the next one earlier and harder. Probably best to wait for a few levels and good blessings. I was able to beat lvl 900 this morning. As expected, using the correct set of boosters (2 Cordy + 1 Chlorella instead of 1 Ginseng + 2 Chlorella) was enough to prevent the boss from healing too much. It fell in 10 turns instead of 16.

I think most of the players have to load their batteries after the drain to grab Finalmecia.

I think the kisses are good regardless. Without any specific planing or preparation, I should be able to get at least 90 fragments on the KC girl this time (82 at the moment). My best so far was 68 (And more like 50-60 most of the time), and that included some Seasons kisses. This time, I used PoV (45 Kisses) and 3 Champions (30 Kisses), everything else is natural regen. Had I stored some kisses from anywhere else, I would probably have been able to finish the event, for the first time. Since PoV happens every 2 weeks, we should often have proper alignments, making it possible to at least attempt one of the 2 KC events. And if it doesn't work, well, that's not really an issue We're used to not getting the girl, by now but stored kisses are so rare that every bit really helps (And the fact that you can store them for up to 14 days is nice, too).

I agree with @JustVisitingReborn (except that kisses from PoV are worhtless, they save you many kobans in KC and made you advance in seasons), we shouldn't be greedy reclaiming that PoV be so easy as to reach 6500 just with normal gameplay in all the iterations. The objective is reaching 2500 points and that is definitely doable in the PvE version and ridiculously easy in the previous ones. The extended path rewards should be viewed as Seasons rewards after you get the girl, even if their ingame value is bigger than there. Let's give kinkoid credit for this feature, it is a nice addition of resources and girl even if you don't unlock the second set.

I'm not sure I could agree with you on this. Yes I'd agree that this PoV is harder to reach the end of. But the last PoV was ridiculously easy. Even if you stick to just the free path and only go to 2.5k potions (which should be trivial), that's still a lot of free stuff. It seems a little unfair to categorise the whole feature in that manner when any player should be able to reach the end of the main free path without any additional investment..... As far as value of the Koban locked path - I agree this is some drop off in value by not getting to the end of everything, but the vast bulk of the value is still achieved by 2.5k potions. The extra you're getting beyond that is: 80k GXP (~2 days of natural shop refreshes) 8xMP (~1 day of PoP) 24xKisses (worthless unless you have the additional Kisses to pick-up a KC girl) 16xCombativity (~23 Koban) 400 Gems Compared to the PXP, GXP, Girls and Boosters gained in the main path, the above seems comparably trivial. I agree that it makes the PoV worth less if you don't reach the end, but it still seems to me like a better investment than the PoA that costs twice as much.

It seems to me that this version of the Path of Valor should have been released after updates with Boss Bang and Elemental Pantheon, which just give you the opportunity to take the maximum for free.

Sorry, Brain fart: not Sandalwood, the Headband thing.

I didn’t get t either until this message. Congratulations on the win. My fic wasn’t good.

I wonder what gave you this impression? On the contrary, I completely agree with you. I'm often complaining about how hard it is for those of us who started "too late" due to the gross imbalance the game has basically always had with a completely unfair and illogical "older account? you win!" approach to "competing in PvP", among many other things. And that's typically having in mind players like me who started the game 2 and a half years ago now (and are dedicated, patient and hardcore as hell in their approach and long-term strategy). It goes without saying that I wouldn't even bother starting the game as it is today. And I already felt that way before the game-shattering Awakenings patch definitely closed the door on any potential future players who aren't either utterly casual and with zero interest in ever being competitive (or growing a decent collection, for that matter, since the two go hand in hand), OR very rich and okay with taking the recently-introduced purely P2W route to "catching up". EDIT: Regarding the specific topic this thread is about, I posted this in the Patch Notes thread back when this was still the latest patch: Does it sound like I'm forgetting about new (or future) players to you? ^^

It was fun, let's do more contests in the future!

Don't go for Top 15, just stay in the league where you are comfortable until it becomes too easy. It's a good way to balance your gameplay experience. There's a number of reasons for this: 1) Until you are a level 400+ user, League should always be an effortless experience for you that only adds money. If you just keep endlessly advancing, you'll end up in leagues that eat you up like fishfood, you'll be forced to buy boosters and end of the week you'll hardly earn any reward kobans. What you should always aim for is a League where you can get to Top 15-30 without spending anything and earn a healthy maximized addition of kobans each week. This is how the game works best until you are super high level and can go for Dicktator Leagues. 2) It's also important to not be in a too high or too low league because of Contests and Events. Multiple times a month there are challenges where it's advantageous to defeat a large number of people in a day (xp, combat, poa). A good Harem player is in total control of his placement and League. A smart player leaves easy targets alone until they need guaranteed wins, and leaves easy high level targets alone until they need to maximize xp rewards. When you are in a League thats suitable for you, you can plan out exactly what to do for max profits.

Another path coming to an end (!! half a day left to claim your rewards !!), another success (IMO). I ended up on ~8000th position with 9100 Points (Removing one O and moving the T makes it sound a lot better ). Once again, I see players of all levels in the top 1000 (The range is even wider than the first time, with players as low as lvl 117), which indicates that pretty much anyone can complete the path (With a bit of time and effort, probably; and choice, of course ). I couldn't really optimize it as much as I would have liked, but decided to go for it anyway. I probably wasted too many books on lvl 1 girls that won't become useful any time soon; but it coincided with a contest, so it's not all wasted... And then I overshot by 2600 points. The next one should be the "PvE" objectives. It's a completely new path, so we'll see how it goes. I didn't choose the best moment to hit the Pantheon-900 wall . The timing is also not great, as this path won't overlap with Mythic Days (Which, I assume, would be the best time to score points against villains ), but it may encourage players to fight against Whaty for the Classic Event overlap (Although... it will end just 4 days before PoA, so we need to be careful to keep enough tickets for that. With 30 tickets per day on average, it should be fine). I like this kind of event (With collectible rewards, i.e. Season, PoA, PoV), because they work nicely with other parts of the game (Use combativity for Events, kisses for KC, XP for Contests, etc.). I might be able to almost finish KC this time, despite my lack of planing, thanks to PoV (And a bit of help from Champions). Maybe KC will finally become a F2P-friendly event?

What? Not enough graphs? Fine, then. Have one more. This graph is messy enough that it may be a one-off thing, but it shows some historical data about how I might have done against players, normalized to me having a specific set of boosters. (Well, it looks like there may have been some problem with Fri 14; I probably was still messing around with stuff.)

Thank you mate, to answer your question i'm pretty happy at being in top 15. For how i play (with instinct and without the fabulous HH script) i'm pretty sure that probably i would not even deserve a spot in this top, i see how much efforts you guys put into the league (my god the graphs too now O.O wowww) so is pretty fine with me: Big Brain wins the instinct I'll give my (very little and probably useless) contribution to the thread: i used 3 ginseng all the week, i was boosted all the time (1 time i was a bit late so i'm not fully convinced), no AM booster used and i lost i think 10-15 fights. 7 for sure, and 1 was exactly against you @DvDivXXX even if i'm pretty sure i was supposed to win that (that actually got me confused), probably the crits came into play.... not sure XD. Also today i got the girl. This week my league seems hard: lots of people are way higher level than me, many have the girls at 600 (mine are still at 550 and i'm not sure if i have all the books required, probably not). If i manage to be in the top 15 here i'll be proud of myself XD

Another boring week in league. As expected, Sovereign won with a lead of 79 points. Not so big as she had a much stronger team than mine and 10 lvl better. The combat would have been tighter if I had used 3 AM boosters. Sorry for my clubmate Poiuy who didn't managed to reach the top 4. Congratuliations to my other clubmate @_wismer_ for his first win in D3. 102 opponents, no loss, a good average of 23,83, 1401 kokbans spent and 2 AM booster used. Screenshot took at 12:22 GMT+1 Next week, I think I'll fight to win.

Hmmm. 10 girls dropped, 1021 Orbs played, 0.98% drop rate. Although the maths are a bit confused by @Rylarth's "Buttload of orbs for 1 girl", so I'm not really sure what to make of it I ignored that for now, but it probably makes the result slightly worse If I also exclude jpanda's report because he's not sure how many orbs he spent for 0 girl, that doesn't really change the result, at 1.04%. If I take an optimistic value from his report (60 Orbs), rather than completely ignoring it, we get the aforementioned 0.98% I started counting from December 31st (Rotation #0447), since it was the first reported "good run" in a long time, and several more followed after that. So 1% is really the optimistic result. That's consistent with the previous (optimistic) result for the period between December 19th and December 29th. We're definitely nowhere near the 2% drop rate some would expect. Also, if I exclude players who reported a single run (either extremely good - 1 orb for 1 girl - or extremely bad - 212 orbs for 0 girl), the results are the same, or slightly worse. The funny thing though, is that none of these reports were average. They were all either really good (1 - 30 for 1 girl) or really bad (145+ for 0 or 1 girl). 5 lucky or very lucky reports, canceled out by 4 unlucky or very unlucky ones.

Works on Nutaku to.

got the girl a few minutes before event ending; 1018 nubans invested in refills + 450 in boosters. I lost today contest though since it took me too long to get her. Anyway, hopefully the remaining shards dont indiciate that so many players have left the game.

This is a Kinky Cumpetition event. Detailed event description is here. The Holy Healer Darling, A spirited cleric is looking for a righteous hero to battle evil with her! Starting today until the 8th of January (1 pm UTC+1) you will have two days to make a divine confession and join forces with Alt. Sophia. Prove your honor against other opponents in the Kinky Cumpetition and you’ll receive special rewards! Show her the many blessings of the Haremverse! Event Girl Alt. Sophia This event happens two times each month - first during a Classic event. @Noacc

I started with 190 kisses and got the girl on the first day

Casomai quanti posti liberi avete ? ho visto che nel nostro club diversi sono interessati , se ne sta discutendo !

Not that I'm aware of; but I didn't notice any issue so far. PoP always seem balanced. I'm not tracking the PoP themselves, but according to gems drop: Orange: 9 Purple: 43 Red: 9 Yellow: 14 White: 15 Green: 47 Blue: 12 Dark: 12 It's pretty balanced (Of course, purple and green are over-represented, because they have a 50% drop chance, vs... 16.66%? for other colors). You can slightly influence the chances of having a specific PoP, by always collecting it first (So always start collecting the PoP you like best, like maybe EP Orbs and Kobans; especially around reset times every week).

That's what @Alkazord was saying (using sarcasm). Written communication can be hard sometimes. Take a good look at this picture, and then read his post again, this should help:

Doing this might result in more people leaving the game. Personally, my goals were reduced to reading the story, performing daily missions, Seasons and Leagues participation to get as many kobans as possible to spend them during MD. All other activities were dropped as I don't want to spend kobans on them.

Answering the original question, I am completely F2P and do almost all the events. The only PoA I haven't finished was the crazy one mid-month in December. I've finished both PoV. I won't do every Mythic Days, but I now have 8 Mythics. Note that I have a Koban stash that would've allowed me to do that, but I chose not to do it, or had issues with available time that meant it wouldn't be prudent. Epic/Legendary days are mostly get free shards for me. I envision a point in time where I possibly won't pay for the extra path of PoV, but for now, it's good for me. What I've been unable to do ever is get a top 4 finish in D3, and honestly in almost any league. Last week, I decided to take a chance, bought 2 AM boosters, and ended up 6th. It was an experiment to see what could happen with using those boosters. I feel pretty confident that 1 AM booster will allow me to regularly get top 15 again. That's an investment I can live with, as it's a small benefit. Regarding the economics discussion, sometimes you want to be on the sidelines and not investing when you are unsure what to do. When awakenings were announced, I decided to push to get girls up, but knowing that I don't spend real money meant I needed a plan. However, various real-life issues meant I had way less time to spend working on a spreadsheet for a plan, so I was winging it for a while, and going conservative. Now I've had time to catch up and formulate a plan. So it's time to see if I can get back to regular top 15 D3 finishes. I do think that the contraction of the playerbase has increased the difficulty, though.

I got the two girls with a 100 shards drop each The first one, I was at 96 shards after 171 fights (which is good), and then a 100 shards drop. (a bit of a waste, but I need a lot of affections, so I was quite pleased) The second one, I was at 0 shard after 45 fights (which is really bad), and then 100 shards. 😱

i havent had time to check all the kobans you can get and you have to invest, but at least for me, it's more or less break even; but, you are right @holymollythat's not enough for a regular f2p player; and honestly, i think that's okay, you should get everything every month as a f2p, you have to take priorities. Eventually I will be in the same boat, i am just lucky my bankroll is higher atm. That being said, a better balance should still be found. @DvDivXXXthanks for the answer - just to be clear: There was never a problem on my side; just wanted to point out that there are other ways to 'value' an event. My thinking starts in/from plurality (so there are plenty of regards to one issue) and explicates one or more regards (and hence there shouldnt be a away to set one regard absolute, even though it happens to often (for me)). Everything else we could discuss on discord, but there is no need (for me). Especially if you dont like to talk about this kind of topics (relation of language, text, logic, perception, etc. pp.)

Gotta love all the efforts you guys go through to make up for the Spoilers feature being broken on the forum. Thank you all for your input.

Yeah, having only a third of the shards was pretty painful. Had to use x50 fights to make some decent progress... To be honest, I'd be satisfied if they kept the same format for revivals (2 days at the end of the month), as long as they give us a small warning ahead of time so we have time to prepare. This isn't an event that can be (reasonably) tackled without at least a bit of preparation. Although, this revival format would not work for too long (If girls are revived at the same rate new ones are introduced, then each of them will only come back once; unless they do multiple parallel revivals). I would gladly spend the Kobans on a few Mythic girls I missed (Either because I really like them, or because they would fit nicely in my pvp team or both 😛 ), but I would really hate being caught off guard and not having a chance.

Thanks for letting me know. Fixed in v0.37.44

Got her, and then took her to 5* and level 54X straight away, which really helped with the PoV. Used 4 Boosters and about 6500 Kobans in refills. Not my best drop rate, but it's fine.

5th Mythic to me. 5 Sandalwood, 160 storaged free combativity and ca. 7800 Koban for refills. 😄 And now the heavy burden: Give her stars and level.... aaaah! 😰 😉

OH MY GOD! I got the 300 Kobans from Kinkoid... and so I have just around 1800 so I'm like... should I try one Peeping Toms 4x Pull at the Pachinko? And I get Peeping Malina!

Thank you and her for sharing. I don't believe it for a second (not that I doubt either of you, to be clear, what I don't believe is that GD provided the correct answer), but at least we have an answer. You don't go from a full year of consistently shitty drops to a full year of consistently awesome drops to several months of consistently shitty drops again without a lever being pulled somewhere. They might not have looked at the right place, or otherwise missed what actually happened, but something definitely happened.

Hey folks, hope everyone had a good holiday, because i sure have! As an aside, looks like i won't have to reset the Mythic orb log data after all, since every pull has 10 gems added by default anyway. I'm going to assume each gem has the same odds of dropping (no reason for this not to be the case) and ignore them in the summarized logs, though i'll still mention which ones i got in the daily log data itself like i'm doing for Places of Power. Day 3: 90 hits Shards: 40 (2x2, 2x3, 2x5, 1x6, 2x7) Other: 5x 15 Dominatrix gems, 2x 15 Submissive gems, 2x Mythic orb (1x Spellbook + 10 Physical gems, 1x Ginseng + 10 Voyeur gems) Day 4: 20 hits, 110 total Shards: 4 (1x4), 44 total Other: 1x 15 Submissive gems, 4x Mythic orb (1x Magazine + 10 Physical gems, 1x Chlorella + 10 Eccentric gems, 1x Spellbook + 10 Playful gems, 1x Cordyceps + 10 Voyeur gems) Day 5: 31 hits, 141 total Shards: 17 (1x3, 2x7), 61 total Other: 5x Mythic orb (1x Chlorella + 10 Voyeur gems, 1x Cordyceps + 10 Physical gems, 1x Magazine + 10 Physical gems, 1x Chlorella + 10 Submissive gems, 1x Magazine + 10 Voyeur gems), 1x 15 Submissive gems, 1x 15 Dominatrix gems Day 7: 25 hits, 167 total Shards: 7 (1x3, 1x4), 68 total Other: 1x 15 Dominatrix gems Day 8: 20 hits, 187 total Shards: 7 (1x7), 75 total Other: 1x 15 Submissive gems, 1x 15 Dominatrix gems Day 9: 44 hits, 231 total Shards: 117 (1x2, 1x7, 1x8, 1x100), 192 total Other: 3x 15 Submissive gems, 1x 15 Dominatrix gems Mythic: 1x Magazine + 10 Submissive gems, 1x Book + 10 Sensual gems, 1x Magazine + 10 Eccentric gems Places of Power Tracker: - Masters of Shadows: 2x Great-10, 1x Mythic, 1x ticket - Part-time Purifiers: 3x Great-10, 1x Mythic - Kinks On Air: 1x shard, 2x ticket, 1x Great-10 Series 32 (9/9 PoPs): 6x ticket, 5x 1.50 mil, 8x 3 kobans, 30x Gems, 21x Legendary Magazine, 6x 225k, 6x 150k, 6x 180k, 2x Epic Lingerie Series 32 (9/9 PoPs): 1x ticket, 5x Gems, 9x Legendary Magazine, 2x 150k, 3x 180k, 4x 3 tickets, 1x 1.50 mil, 1x 150k, 1x 225k