Zteev Posted July 25, 2020 Share Posted July 25, 2020 42 minutes ago, Observer_X said: Overall, I think I will be able to obtain Piper with some effort, but i don't think that the time I will have left at that point will be enough to obtain Petal, despite the bonuses along the way. While I was writing this, @Zteev posted his plan, so I want to make the dumb question: you declared that you are a fully free player, but do you intend to use your free kobans to complete the tasks (for refills etc) when need arise or not? Because in the latter case, as I said above (apart the champion matter), I may be wrong, but I doubt that the time will be enough (especially taking into account that it is unpredictable how much time and resources will be needed for the contest points tasks). I expect you'll get both girls if you can play often enough during the event, you have 8 days, and my plan is really 7 days, with day 8 as the extra day. Depends on how much time you have where you can't play in a row. I have a period of non playing for at least 8 hours on Day 2 that is not sleep related, and I don't play if I am out & about with my significant other - she might frown upon that. There is a chance that I will have to drive 6 hours at some point one way during this to help out a friend who is going through some crap, that would put a big dent on things. I have no intention of losing Champion battles intentionally either, but trust me that I have PLENTY of losses to the last 2 Champions coming. I might strategically need to lose progress to make things click perfectly time-wise, though. You will want to have the Champions fresh and ready to go when you get to that task. Not necessarily on level 1, doing the last Champions task on level 5 might be really smart, as it's maximum fights to complete. I doubt I will need to spend Kobans for refills at all in this Path. I consider any refills to have a net gain of Kobans via contest/league placement as not being directly the same - I would do that whether there was PoA going or not. I'm sure you can agree that spending a # of Kobans to get more than that same # of Kobans makes sense. That said, I am very likely to use 7200 Kobans to unlock the extra rewards, which will easily suffice. Anything relating to specific collections in my plan posting above is excluding those extra rewards. I feel that I would've completed the earlier paths without unlocking, but it may have taken some Kobans for refills, I had lacked Prep for the first one, and had some issues with Champions. I can try testing this by delaying unlocking until I find it absolutely necessary, though. I think this is the first time the Koban spenders get more than just the same amount as the free path at each spot. I don't really have an issue with it, because spending keeps the game going, and it's a pretty standard setup for online games. I do think the spots that the spending path wins is the money versus orbs spots, as orbs are better. Of course the girl on the paid side on level 20 is the least desirable one for me. Hope that was enough info. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zamio Posted July 25, 2020 Share Posted July 25, 2020 2 hours ago, yoyowhan said: One more way is to pay kobens to restock shop to buy books for next legendary contest. This is necessary if you have over 30 lv.1 girls to use.Gotta said I did over 15 restock last time and almost failed to get 4th. My plan is not to spend any kobans apart from the 7200 to unlock the second path. both prior POAs, I have not spent any kobans on recharges and the tasks are doable without the need to speed it up with koban spending, this one seems no different. Maybe it's the fact that I'm in the bracket 361-400, but I don't need so much books for Legendary Contest, just normal purchase through the market and hoarding is enough. Last LC, I already got the girl before the book contest, so I didn't even need books. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blaa Posted July 25, 2020 Share Posted July 25, 2020 6 hours ago, natstar said: great pachinko costs more to play if you need extra items so a lot of people spend the coins to get more items to sell lol. yeah, somehow you need to improve your equipment, until now I could keep up with champions and casino contests (and buying from market here and there), but If I really need an upgrade I will use the orbs for some items. But I wont use them before it's really necessary or there will be at least some non-permanent girls on the pachinko pool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blaa Posted July 25, 2020 Share Posted July 25, 2020 Not sure if it was already pointed out, but if you can save your combativity, you shouldnt claim it, since the next event seems to be happen just the day after and you could start with a nice combativity bonus there. So, since I have a similar plan as @Zteev, I wont use any combativity refills if not absolutley necessary. That's also the reason for doing champions on the beginning of day2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoyowhan Posted July 25, 2020 Share Posted July 25, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Zamio said: My plan is not to spend any kobans apart from the 7200 to unlock the second path. both prior POAs, I have not spent any kobans on recharges and the tasks are doable without the need to speed it up with koban spending, this one seems no different. Maybe it's the fact that I'm in the bracket 361-400, but I don't need so much books for Legendary Contest, just normal purchase through the market and hoarding is enough. Last LC, I already got the girl before the book contest, so I didn't even need books. Last LC I paid some kobens to get the girl at day1.Then I paid whatever I have at the 3 days to get 3 mythic*6 orbs. Now I just need to pay more kobens on energy so I can take haste to get all mythic orbs in 24 hours. Once I am done.I may have 10 mythic*3 and 5 mythic*6 orbs in total so I can get Golden Bunny along with waitress Eugenie paying one more 1960 kobens. (Windia is collected before) I heard some bracket in last LC did an extremely effort on LC day2 and day4.Since I can have over 40 lv.1 girl until that day,I have to make the biggest effort to get as many books as I can.1 girl requires over 35k xp to level up to 400.It is not enough to get 3 free shop restock every day. Suggestion to player who wants to get Golden Bunny with mythic orbs like me: I suggest to finish the first 4000 contest points before reset by using combativty reward or refill. If the new contest requires xp+ energy, don't claim all daily mission until you are starting to get 10000 contest points. Edited July 25, 2020 by yoyowhan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zteev Posted July 25, 2020 Share Posted July 25, 2020 31 minutes ago, Zamio said: My plan is not to spend any kobans apart from the 7200 to unlock the second path. both prior POAs, I have not spent any kobans on recharges and the tasks are doable without the need to speed it up with koban spending, this one seems no different. Maybe it's the fact that I'm in the bracket 361-400, but I don't need so much books for Legendary Contest, just normal purchase through the market and hoarding is enough. Last LC, I already got the girl before the book contest, so I didn't even need books. I am right there with you on not spending Kobans, unless I net a profit in Kobans. Very possible in the League, and if you can have that sync up with a Contest or a PoA task, even better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoyowhan Posted July 25, 2020 Share Posted July 25, 2020 42 minutes ago, mikcris said: "Once I am done.I may have 10 mythic*3 and 6 mythic*6 orbs in total so I can get Golden Bunny along with waitress Eugenie." Unless you have already 4 mythic*3 orbs and 4 mythic*6 orbs... I do not see how you get from this contest alone "10 mythic*3 and 6 mythic*6 orbs in total" Max you can get is 6 mythic*3 orbs and 2 mythic*6 orbs. Ouch,I already have 4 mythic*3 and 3 mythic*6,I mistaken the last PoA reward as 3 mythic*6 in total. Then I may pay another 1960 kobens for mythic*6.All right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nearphotison Posted July 25, 2020 Share Posted July 25, 2020 So if you've done all of the story chapters, is there just no way to advance in this event beyond the "Spend Energy" challenge? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max669 Posted July 25, 2020 Share Posted July 25, 2020 (edited) il y a 1 minute, Nearphotison a dit : So if you've done all of the story chapters, is there just no way to advance in this event beyond the "Spend Energy" challenge? You can buy Champion Tickets for 60 energy each. EDIT : Go to Champions, then "Reception Desk" and you'll see the option to buy tickets for 60 energy. Edited July 25, 2020 by Max669 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caradog Posted July 25, 2020 Share Posted July 25, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, mikcris said: "Once I am done.I may have 10 mythic*3 and 6 mythic*6 orbs in total so I can get Golden Bunny along with waitress Eugenie." Unless you have already 4 mythic*3 orbs and 4 mythic*6 orbs... I do not see how you get from this contest alone "10 mythic*3 and 6 mythic*6 orbs in total" Max you can get is 6 mythic*3 orbs and 2 mythic*6 orbs. Unused MP*6 & *3 orbs from LC & MP*3 orbs from the last PoA + the MP orbs from this PoA? That's how I liberated Golden Bunny & Waitress Eugene from the Pachinko last night. Edited July 25, 2020 by Caradog typo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator DvDivXXX Posted July 25, 2020 Moderator Share Posted July 25, 2020 (edited) 11 hours ago, Dmytro said: The main bottlenecks are defeat players 15+30+45+80=170 times and do 40+60=100 champion performances To me, the main bottlenecks are the two big Spend Energy tasks (the first one was quick enough). Just in terms of sheer waiting times. Of course, the option exists to buy energy refills, but I can't bring myself to do that (and I'm very low on kobans right now anyway). The PVP tasks include Arena wins, so it can be sped up quite a bit if you have the time, and Champion tasks can actually go pretty quick if you rotate between all 6 of them. For energy, you just need to wait, unless you happen to level up which can speed things up a bit, but I take a level every 3-4 days by now, so it's not reliable. I'm not complaining, though, I think this new task type is a decent way to make the event last longer without ridiculous or frustrating requirements. I'm also very glad about the new way they designed the Contest tasks: earn X points is not problematic like "finish at rank X or above". Edited July 25, 2020 by DvDivXXX 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Karyia Posted July 25, 2020 Share Posted July 25, 2020 For anyone wondering... Heatwave Piper (3-star legendary): 2,4 HC 2,0 CH 5,4 KH Heatwave Claryssa (3-star legendary): 5,5 HC 2,2 CH 2,3 KH 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urist Posted July 25, 2020 Share Posted July 25, 2020 (edited) I'm doing pretty well. No additional kobans spent. I managed to finish off task 5 yesterday, had to stay up late to do it, but it let me spend ~90 banked energy into task 6 without wasting any in between energy tasks. I'll have task 6 completed in 2.5 hours. I'm holding the free 10 combats and 2 from yesterday's contest until I'm at task 10. I expect to have task 10 at least halfway two thirds done by the end of the day without claiming any rewards. Edited July 25, 2020 by Urist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caradog Posted July 25, 2020 Share Posted July 25, 2020 (edited) Done! Would've finished several hours ago but i fought the last 24 fights of the final task unboosted & the overwhelming majority of my arena opponents have been heavily boosted (which, given the PvP tasks, is to be expected): Edited July 25, 2020 by Caradog typo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Observer_X Posted July 25, 2020 Share Posted July 25, 2020 12 hours ago, Zteev said: I expect you'll get both girls if you can play often enough during the event, you have 8 days, and my plan is really 7 days, with day 8 as the extra day. Depends on how much time you have where you can't play in a row. Unluckily, from Monday to Friday my mornings are taken by my part time work (i can connect briefly during breakfast if necessary, but I doubt that will save me from losing big amounts of time in relation to the event), so normally I can be online on HH between 14:00 and 14:30 (UTC+1). Usually on Tuesdays I have also some hours occupied by weekly chores in the afternoon, so playing HH on Tuesdays recently has become quite a run for me (especially when there are event mission to complete, in particular during Orgy Days). 12 hours ago, Zteev said: I have no intention of losing Champion battles intentionally either, but trust me that I have PLENTY of losses to the last 2 Champions coming. I might strategically need to lose progress to make things click perfectly time-wise, though. You will want to have the Champions fresh and ready to go when you get to that task. Not necessarily on level 1, doing the last Champions task on level 5 might be really smart, as it's maximum fights to complete. I suppose I should have used the expression "purposedly reduce your strength (by avoiding boosters, by using a lesser strong squad or even by using weaker equipment) to be able to do more champions performances without the 24hrs waiting time". Forgive me, it was 6:00am after a sleepless night, and after ending the forum session I immediately hit the bed. About the rest, as you may have imagined due to my actual non-koban policy, I won't spend those 7200 kobans for the additional rewards, so the lack of those in the tasks I mentioned in my previous posts could make a relevant difference for me in terms of time needed. Actually, considering my engagements (and possible unexpected events) I am not able to make even a rough calculation if the "spare" day in your plan will be enough to allow me to get to the bottom of the list. We will see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LanceHardwood Posted July 25, 2020 Share Posted July 25, 2020 I personally don't see much of an improvement this event. Ticket requirement reduced by 20, but then it's additionally slowed down by the energy requirements. Admittedly not 100% sure if that will affect the ability to finish the event without recharges, but it's not an improvement if it just increases the number of hoops without increasing total event time. Paid rewards are slightly better - 3 girls for 7200 instead of 2. But that's still 2400 per girl, which is higher than the average you'd spend to get an additional girl during Epic days. Other rewards are superficial because you'd never spend kobans on things you can farm and the mythic orbs don't even guarantee 1 whole girl. Plus most of the time those kobans would be saved for Legendary Days where they're most useful. On that topic instead of 'improving' PoA by making it more tedious, Legendary Days event can actually use a boost by adding/bringing back more girls to farm, since usually only 1 or 2 specialties are covered, which means some players won't be interested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emmjyh Posted July 25, 2020 Share Posted July 25, 2020 15 hours ago, Zteev said: I feel that this is the best point to decide if I am going for the whole path or not. Odds are I will be, as 2 girls, even if one is a sort of ugly squirt gun toter, isn't bad deal for the 7200 Kobans. Actually, 7200 kobans get you 3 extra girls, not 2. Look more closely to the level XV rewards 🙂 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blaa Posted July 25, 2020 Share Posted July 25, 2020 30 minutes ago, LanceHardwood said: ... but it's not an improvement if it just increases the number of hoops without increasing total event time. The total event time has also increased, it's just a day, but that's at least around 14% more time to finish all tasks. It seems like a lot of people miss the x10 epic pachinko orb(s); like @Emmjyh just pointed out (again) for 7200 you get at least three girls (12 epic pachinko x1 orbs are also almost a girl in average, with the orbs from the free path it should be another girl in average (+equipment + affection)); that's 400 for one of them, only orgy days has a better average for kobans/girl. And, obviously, you can gain a lot of additional value in this event. I am currently on task X, havent used any rewards so far and will probably finish the event in the next three days with only using energy rewards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eman Posted July 25, 2020 Share Posted July 25, 2020 I was weak and used an energy refill to get past task 6. I'm confidend these new energy tasks will become the most annoying ones for many. At least they are for me. At least that allowed me to move a bit and I'm now at task 11 with 17/30. I hope I'll be able to do it before today's end, then the next two that are easy, and back to being stuck at the last energy task. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LanceHardwood Posted July 25, 2020 Share Posted July 25, 2020 16 minutes ago, blaa said: The total event time has also increased, it's just a day, but that's at least around 14% more time to finish all tasks. One day for 6 more missions with several of them being energy which are slower to do than the average. Still it might be possible without kobans, but the time-management is definitely more stringent. 19 minutes ago, blaa said: It seems like a lot of people miss the x10 epic pachinko orb(s); like @Emmjyh just pointed out (again) for 7200 you get at least three girls (12 epic pachinko x1 orbs are also almost a girl in average, with the orbs from the free path it should be another girl in average (+equipment + affection)); that's 400 for one of them, only orgy days has a better average for kobans/girl. You're lumping in free rewards toward the 7200 koban ones. If you want to average it out, you can't really count getting half a girl from orbs in that total. 2400 kobans per girl I think is above both Orgy and Epic Days. For me only Legendary Days requires more investment on average. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Тёмный Властелин Posted July 25, 2020 Share Posted July 25, 2020 2 hours ago, Caradog said: Done! Impressive. By the way, can you tell, what is the point to finish 8 days event in 1 day? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chthugha Posted July 25, 2020 Share Posted July 25, 2020 15 minutes ago, Тёмный Властелин said: Impressive. By the way, can you tell, what is the point to finish 8 days event in 1 day? Obviously it's to have days off now I'm at the first champions task, which should be fast enough. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caradog Posted July 25, 2020 Share Posted July 25, 2020 37 minutes ago, Тёмный Властелин said: Impressive. By the way, can you tell, what is the point to finish 8 days event in 1 day? There's no significant advantage to be had: it just allows me to resume my usual playing routine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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