Тёмный Властелин Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 (edited) Last week results: 110 players: 432 – highest level, 307 – lowest, average – 380.53, median – 382; 400+ – 34 players; 390+ – 10 players; 380+ – 20 players made 293 battles: 291 – wins, 2 – losses (1 – 13 points), 34 remaining tokens average points per wins: 17.206 15th place score – 5025; got 16th with 5023 points was boosted for 3 days: 1 time 2 legendary + 2 epic cordyceps; 2 time 4 legendary chlorella Very good result in terms of XP gain. People scored more than usual due to PoA, and I got the best lowest points per win ever - 17.2 - due to chlorella and monostats usage. The league was won by 421 level Know-how player (4 D2 wins). Level 406 Know-how player (1 D2 win) was second. Level 408 Hardcore player (4 D1 wins) was 3d. Level 401 Charm player (2 times 3d in D2) got 4th. The rest of the top 9 are: HC, HC, KH, CH, KH. Screens: Good luck, have fun! 😉 Edited October 22, 2020 by Тёмный Властелин 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blaa Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 1 hour ago, ChyldeRoland said: Potentially dumb question so apologies in advance. Last two weeks I have participated but not whole-heartedly. Earned points in LC this last week, ended up in mid ninties place both weeks. Haven't been demoted when I expected I would. Is demotion no longer a thing or am I missing some other salient detail? Please respond if interested - if this was in a patch note that I missed I apologize If I see this right, nobody has reacted so far, so just a quick answer: You still can demote: bottom 15 or everybody with 0 points gets demoted. A common mistake is that people make the wrong math: 100 player leagues means that place 100-86 gets demoted (or more if there are more players with 0 points), but not number 85 (but 100-15=85). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator DvDivXXX Posted October 22, 2020 Moderator Share Posted October 22, 2020 1 hour ago, blaa said: A common mistake is that people make the wrong math: 100 player leagues means that place 100-86 gets demoted (or more if there are more players with 0 points), but not number 85 (but 100-15=85). That and also there are plenty of leagues with more than 100 players, sometimes way more (I see ChyldeRoland is in D2). If you're in a 115 player league, then you need to be no higher than #101 to demote. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jl05419 Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 This question may had been done before but there are +130 pages. But is it worth (exp wise) to stay in Dicktator 3 if i can win most fight the 5 first days and then lose rather than staying in dicktator 2 for winning almost alwais but not doing all the fight to not rank up and wait a week to demote? In my club we talked this and we can't really get to a point. I guess it can be by the power difference but the 5 we talked only have like 10 lvl max of diference. We only could agree it's worst in kobans if you can't get top 30 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sygfried94 Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 54 minutes ago, jl05419 said: This question may had been done before but there are +130 pages. But is it worth (exp wise) to stay in Dicktator 3 if i can win most fight the 5 first days and then lose rather than staying in dicktator 2 for winning almost alwais but not doing all the fight to not rank up and wait a week to demote? In my club we talked this and we can't really get to a point. I guess it can be by the power difference but the 5 we talked only have like 10 lvl max of diference. We only could agree it's worst in kobans if you can't get top 30 getting top 30 in d2 is mostly around 220 win fight (can be a little more or less depending of the way people are able to manage their point) so as long as you can win same amount of fight, since in d3 you can do all your fight (even loss give XP) in xp matter it better to goes in d3. for my league no screen and long time i haven't posted here. my 20 top1d3 in a row on my main, top 15 on my secondary. very difficult league on my secondary so i save booster by using my epic stock and just went to a top 15 with minimal cost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E. N. D. Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 Thanks @Fiel for the screenshot and thanks also for the league, it was nice to play against you (like Slynia, Jelom, Mago, Phoenix and several other players ....) You are a good opponent (smart in your choices and strong too). Congratulations. I wasn't able to know if I had won before your post on the forum. Thanks for that I love it. Have a nice evening all see you next week 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jl05419 Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 24 minutes ago, Sygfried94 said: getting top 30 in d2 is mostly around 220 win fight (can be a little more or less depending of the way people are able to manage their point) so as long as you can win same amount of fight, since in d3 you can do all your fight (even loss give XP) in xp matter it better to goes in d3. for my league no screen and long time i haven't posted here. my 20 top1d3 in a row on my main, top 15 on my secondary. very difficult league on my secondary so i save booster by using my epic stock and just went to a top 15 with minimal cost. Ok so i will keep fighting in D3. Maybe using booster a bit sooner to make sure i do the 220 wins I'm lvl 395 and 350k ego so i really can't expect to be top 15. I end 35-40 usually and at some point i may try to go full boosters for a week and see how i end, but it won't be worth the amount of kobans expended for a top 15-30 that i will probably end Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Тёмный Властелин Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 (edited) 36 minutes ago, Sygfried94 said: getting top 30 in d2 is mostly around 220 win fight (can be a little more or less depending of the way people are able to manage their point) so as long as you can win same amount of fight, since in d3 you can do all your fight (even loss give XP) in xp matter it better to goes in d3. I mean, an average D2 league ends up in ~4700 points for top 16-30 (with a very little gap). If you manage your battles right and get a relatively low average for wins (let's say 18 points), than it is 4700 \ 18 = 261,11 wins (268 for 17,5). So in order to have that much XP you need to have around 250 wins in D3 to be on even pace. 1 hour ago, jl05419 said: But is it worth (exp wise) to stay in Dicktator 3 if i can win most fight the 5 first days and then lose rather than staying in dicktator 2 for winning almost alwais but not doing all the fight to not rank up and wait a week to demote? The decision depends upon your current in-game level, your wish for "competitiveness" (some just like to spend all of their tokens no matter the outcome) and your "koban situation" (are you eager to spend more of them on boosters for proper D3 competition and get less kobans from leagues overall). UPD: 4 minutes ago, jl05419 said: I'm lvl 395 You should definitely stay in D3. Edited October 22, 2020 by Тёмный Властелин 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jl05419 Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 Yeah, i should have said the lvl at the first question. I doubt i would get less than 20 points in D2 in the first half so it's less fights that i have to match in D3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sygfried94 Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 37 minutes ago, Тёмный Властелин said: I mean, an average D2 league ends up in ~4700 points for top 16-30 (with a very little gap). If you manage your battles right and get a relatively low average for wins (let's say 18 points), than it is 4700 \ 18 = 261,11 wins (268 for 17,5). So in order to have that much XP you need to have around 250 wins in D3 to be on even pace. under 18 point is on the luck range for win/loss. a normal fight can goes between 0 - 1 critic with judge position for your oponent to 3-0 with judge on your side. that basicly put at least a 3-4 point varia between your worst and your best score. since the minimal point for a victory is 16 , going under 18 medium without loss is very lucky and very hard to to acheive . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom208 Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 (edited) Another week in D2, started at level 331, finished at level 334. Here are the screenshots I took at about 12:15 PM. Finally my rank was 23rd but I'm pretty sure that the scores of the 15th and the 31th places didn't change a lot. The score of the 15th place was pretty high this week (above 5000 points). Usually, it's around 4800 points. But it doesn't bother me at all, on the contraty, I was able to carry out all my fights and still remain in top 16-30. My rank: 23rd. Boosters used : 8 epics (2 ginseng / 2 cordyceps twice) 110 players -> 109 opponents -> 327 possible fights -> 327 fights performed -> 262 wins and 65 losses Very good week for xp. I hope the next weeks will be the same than this one 😁 Edited January 8, 2021 by Tom208 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowman22 Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 I have not been reporting much for the last month for 2 reasons. 1) I have been encountering a LOT of RL and 2) I have been doing really badly. After over a month of scoring over 22 pts/fight every week I have gone a month where my best effort was only 21.88. The top end of my brackets does not look any stronger lately but what I think I see is a LOT more perma-boosting at all levels. I expect to see a few perma-boosted top players but I see even more in the low and mid bracket. What I think is happening is: Flood of MPx1 and EpPx1 and GPX10 orbs from all sources but particularly POP = a lot of good/junk L boosters even for L 3xx players. So high level players can afford to stay good boosted more. Say I have a bunch of perma-boosted players 20 levels higher than me competing for 2-4. I can NOT beat them if they are boosted but they CAN beat each other. Net extra 4 - 5 point loss per fight to me. And low/mid bracket players are thinking "I do not want to use any good boosters because it will not get me any more points but I have this pile of junk purple. Might as well throw some on." 4 x L chlor on a -30L may not get them any points but it does subtract more from my score than from the +20L's score. TLDR; more boosters = less chance to snipe unboosted = less chance to make up a level difference. That is my excuse and I am sticking to it. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Тёмный Властелин Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 On 10/22/2020 at 9:14 PM, Sygfried94 said: under 18 point is on the luck range for win/loss. a normal fight can goes between 0 - 1 critic with judge position for your oponent to 3-0 with judge on your side. that basicly put at least a 3-4 point varia between your worst and your best score. since the minimal point for a victory is 16 , going under 18 medium without loss is very lucky and very hard to to acheive . So, here you go. There is no XP contest today so I didn't use chlorellas and still got only one 18 points out of 14 tries. The rest were mostly 17s (9 times) and some 16s (4 times). Only used monostat items swap and girls swap. With chlorellas it is even easier to achieve lower points. Right? 😀 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sygfried94 Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 2 hours ago, Тёмный Властелин said: So, here you go. There is no XP contest today so I didn't use chlorellas and still got only one 18 points out of 14 tries. The rest were mostly 17s (9 times) and some 16s (4 times). Only used monostat items swap and girls swap. With chlorellas it is even easier to achieve lower points. Right? 😀 scooter doesn,t take judge position in account and neither for hc and ch case the extra value due to a critic on or post orgasm. So playing as you did with 16 points defaut pronostic from scooter will always lead at some defeat when worst case appens, that why sometimes with a positive evaluation you still get some loose. that why before i said without losing. if you want to be sure not getting some lost due to worst case scenario you'll have to start from a 17 point pronostic from the scooter worst case scenario even with you able to always choose the best judge still 1.25% chance since we are speacking of 250-260 fight, there is still a good chance te get at least one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowman22 Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 Now that I have had time to analyze my D3 it is kind of interesting. I am 21st highest by level. That is the highest I have ever noted. There are only 2 players with multiple D3 wins (6x and 3x). Looks promising right? Should be 2 doable spots in the top 4? Nope. Of those other 18 players above me 12 have multiple 2-4 D3 finishes. 75% of the players above me have placed 1-4 in D3. No superstars but that is one solid pack of contenders. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sygfried94 Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 20 hours ago, snowman22 said: Now that I have had time to analyze my D3 it is kind of interesting. I am 21st highest by level. That is the highest I have ever noted. There are only 2 players with multiple D3 wins (6x and 3x). Looks promising right? Should be 2 doable spots in the top 4? Nope. Of those other 18 players above me 12 have multiple 2-4 D3 finishes. 75% of the players above me have placed 1-4 in D3. No superstars but that is one solid pack of contenders. top 1 is relevent, top 4 not. there is too much way to get top 4. i know players above 70 rank that were able to top 4. sometime you don't know why but it's appens that only one or 2 player are fighting and the rest just sleep and play with low or no booster, ending 3 and 4 place under 21 averages easely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blaa Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 3 hours ago, Sygfried94 said: top 1 is relevent, top 4 not. there is too much way to get top 4. i know players above 70 rank that were able to top 4. sometime you don't know why but it's appens that only one or 2 player are fighting and the rest just sleep and play with low or no booster, ending 3 and 4 place under 21 averages easely. even though that may happen from time to time, it's not really often. You just have to take a look on the screens in this thread, there is probably no top4 d3 with an average under 21. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowman22 Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 8 hours ago, Sygfried94 said: top 1 is relevent, top 4 not. there is too much way to get top 4. i know players above 70 rank that were able to top 4. sometime you don't know why but it's appens that only one or 2 player are fighting and the rest just sleep and play with low or no booster, ending 3 and 4 place under 21 averages easely. I think you are a little too rigid. Top 1 is not always relevant: I have a top 1 in D3 but it was a fluke. No-top-1s is not always a sign of weakness: @_shal_ was lethal long before he got first his top 1. My point was if you have 13 players all of whom have 2/3/4 place finishes competing for 3rd and 4th statistics says some of them are bound to be lucky / good. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator govenants Posted October 28, 2020 Moderator Share Posted October 28, 2020 Come on !!! @E. N. D. , let's kick fran's ass :p 1 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E. N. D. Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 @govenants Only you could do that this week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Тёмный Властелин Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 (edited) Ass "kickers" in the thread, guys! BEWARE! 😀 Edited October 28, 2020 by Тёмный Властелин 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator govenants Posted October 28, 2020 Moderator Share Posted October 28, 2020 Il y a 2 heures, E. N. D. a dit : @govenants Only you could do that this week only 9 battles left 😫 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E. N. D. Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 @govenantsYou need 22.11 average on your 9 battles, I need 23.5 average on my 12battles , I won't get 6944points. Good luck to you I hope so 🍀🍀🍀 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator Kenrae Posted October 29, 2020 Moderator Share Posted October 29, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes to go... 22.26 average, not my best at all, but this season has been like walking through a land filled with mines. Many people constantly boosted, in fact I've even lost 2 battles and got less than 20 points on a bunch of them. I guess this has been the case for everybody and that's why everyone has a low average. I this ends this way I'll be happy to be above everybody except the player that was fully out of reach, this season top4 was competitive. Crossing fingers here... EDIT: Ended 2nd 🎉 Edited October 29, 2020 by Kenrae 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dmitrii Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 7 hours ago, Dmitrii said: 3 week not getting into the top 4 Great top 4 this week All week I used 2 Cordyceps + 2 roots and again about 6700 Lost 4 fight 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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