Moderator Ravi-Sama Posted August 2, 2023 Moderator Share Posted August 2, 2023 16 minutes ago, Bobick said: Mavin + six of those girls should give a (0.6% (rare) + 6 x 0.8% (legendary))* 7 (number of girls) = 5.4% x 7 = 37.8% attack boost. That's already over 3 cordyceps worth (30%), so I'd say it's pretty significant, w/o even doing any math. It'll take a long time to upgrade that many legendary girls. Still haven't figured out the tier 3 skills yet either. Which will also take time, to be able to plan ahead. That plus boosters, blessings, matching hero/girl gear, counter bonuses, timing vs. un-boosted players, etc. could lead to some monster teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dadfa Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 sex is simple; that's the reason i liked this game and played it but now with so much variable, it's not enjoyable at all but a hassle to continue. if these variations of skills-gems,etc & all calculation were features in real life, everybody would've hate sex altogether and people would remain sexless which would lead to religious preachers be very satisfied . Game should be simple and need no math, let alone a sex theme game!! 2 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsting Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 2 hours ago, Bobick said: Mavin + six of those girls should give a (0.6% (rare) + 6 x 0.8% (legendary))* 7 (number of girls) = 5.4% x 7 = 37.8% attack boost. Woaah, you are right, I under-estimated the chance/possibility that multiple M6*/L5* girls can have the same tier 3 trait. The more girls with matching tier 3 trait you add, the stronger the skill becomes. Not exactly exponentially, but effectively close to. Now I am interested in a list of all girls with their tier 3 trait and how many with the same trait each exist. If there is one with a large pool where always/mostly some benefit from blessings as well, that might be a reason to focus on skilling those girls first. Not sure if I should like this. I mean with my 256 girls I won't benefit from this for a long time, but as I am in D3, it has the potential of making my life harder. And of course it means a lot more math and considerations, which was added already by a significant amount with GG. And it sounds like the cumulative bonus could be simply too strong, i.e. that one must have such a 7/7 matching trait team to compete without much options to vary. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miccia Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 People can't take it anymore. I will lose many dear friends after this last change. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shirow Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 9 hours ago, Ravi-Sama said: They know about it. I advise not doing anything. Don't spend kobans yet. Don't try to rush and claim girls either, they might just delete your progress. I'll make the thread for it. ...damn it was fixed before I even finished this comment. fuk......... i did not notice anything. I just got home from work, saw a new thingy "this is why i am saving kobans."........ sigh.... fuk also.. what's with the colored lamps...? i tried to check what is it, but... i don't know what is it still... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incubys Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 2 minutes ago, Shirow said: fuk......... i did not notice anything. I just got home from work, saw a new thingy "this is why i am saving kobans."........ sigh.... fuk also.. what's with the colored lamps...? i tried to check what is it, but... i don't know what is it still... All explained in Patch Notes. They are for Girl Skills. Yes, it's a shit as it sounds ... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator bolitho76 Posted August 2, 2023 Moderator Share Posted August 2, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Shirow said: i did not notice anything. I just got home from work, saw a new thingy "this is why i am saving kobans."........ sigh.... fuk They had fixed the problem so there is no reason anymore to avoid spending ressources at the SB to not get reseted or banned for bug abusing. 5 minutes ago, Shirow said: also.. what's with the colored lamps...? Patch notes! (They are needed for Girls skills) Edit: Ninjaed by Incubys... Edited August 2, 2023 by bolitho76 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobick Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 1 hour ago, Horsting said: i.e. that one must have such a 7/7 matching trait team to compete without much options to vary. I thought the same... at least we need some easier way to identify the "strongest trait" for each week to check. With zoopokemon's data, I started to do some calculations, but I guess I need a VBA script to automatize this. The strength of a trait is defined as the sum of the max base stats of the 7 strongest matching girls. For position only and next week's blessings I get   Unblessed Blessed Position 69 167.06 209.67 Position Bridge 147.25  Position Column 183.24 224.19 Position Doggie Style 175.06 212.01 Position Dolphin 154.06  Position Indian Headstand 145  Position Jack Hammer 145.5  Position Missionary 141.25  Position Nose Dive 175 233.03 Position Sodomy 152.75  Position Splitting Bamboo 151  Position Suspended Congress 161.06   Position + Column might be generally a good choice to upgrade, Position + Nose Dive is superior with next week's blessings. Tbc. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shirow Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 54 minutes ago, Incubys said: All explained in Patch Notes. They are for Girl Skills. Yes, it's a shit as it sounds ... what? the one thing i hate in games , in any game... skill tree crap... seriously, i hate that thing. why .... i like the simple game it was before.... 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incubys Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 It's better then permanent skill tree increases, each blessing change you can re-set all your lamps (for a cost obviously) so you can skill up girls for the next week. Yes. Re-doing girl skill trees. Every. Single. Week. And everyone is singing and dancing and praising KK for such a genius idea .... sarcasm  2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shirow Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 damn. even fukin worst. i would ask you if you joking me, in an alternate universe, but seems the "lamps" are a metaphor for such idea. The blessing i stopped giving a crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rylarth Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 The droprate of these Bulbs are far to genorous[Sarcasm] 1 orb for 100 fights which for most casual players equals months of tickets is way to Much it should be 1Gazillion tickets for each orb so the earth can turn into a exploding supernova before each skillnode🤬 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hihi1237823 Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 (edited) For those that wonder about the income=bunny(base +flat)*(1+club+bulb) Edited August 3, 2023 by hihi1237823 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kissmydick Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 (edited) is it better to go +1000 ymens or +10% ymens? never mind figured it out...a bit late Edited August 3, 2023 by Kissmydick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator bolitho76 Posted August 3, 2023 Moderator Share Posted August 3, 2023 If girl collect more than 10.000 Ymen befor you can collect: % If girl collect less than 10.000 Ymen before you can collect: +200 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Moderator Ravi-Sama Posted August 3, 2023 Moderator Share Posted August 3, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, hihi1237823 said: For those that wonder about the income=bunny(base +flat)*(1+club+bulb) Yep, this checks out for Bunny's income. 1 hour ago, hihi1237823 said: Here you're showing examples of how the 10% boost isn't always better than a flat bonus, for girls w/ 10k+ income. At 10,398 ymens and lower, it's better to have the full flat bonus. At 11,603 ymens and higher, it's better to have the full 10% ymen bonus. That's what I inferred from the tables. Edited August 3, 2023 by Ravi-Sama 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobick Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Ravi-Sama said: At 10,398 ymens, it's better to have the full flat bonus. At 11,603 ymens and higher, it's better to have the full 10% ymen bonus. That's what I inferred from the tables. Yes, exactly. If you want to really optimize the last ymen, keep those decisive values in mind: base income >= 11,600 -> 5 bulbs on percentage increase, 11,600 > base income >= 11,200 -> 4 bulbs on percentage increase etc. 11,600 - 11,200 - 10,800 - 10,400 are the exact solutions. I came to the same resuls maximizing a quadratic function (the income increase as function of the number of bulbs spent on percentage) over a very small discrete solution space (1,2,3,4 or 5). Crazy, even such supposedly simple parts of the game now require discrete optimization. I think, though, bolitho's rule of thumb is a good enough proxy. All those ymens are peanuts in the end. Edited August 3, 2023 by Bobick 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yamiray Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 (edited) Ok Good news bad news. Good news is I have posted the list of skill 3 for all girls I can scan here Bad news like other stats I can't detect it unless girl is in my harem so the list is missing 121 girls at this time.(Edit: after taking a closer look after noticing I had data on girl I don't have it looks like I can pull the info for skill 3 if I have at least 1 shard of that girl. Its only if I have none at all does the stat not come back) Here is the list of girls I don't have so you know what to keep on eye out for Elfy Nelle Alicia Vanessa Winter Viola Shino Aurora Hellebron Ruriko Loving Pelagie Ascending Tsubame Anniversary Selena Koro Delivery Girl Nikukawa Anniversary Abraël Shtupra Winter Any Misvaginus Dakishi Halloween Barrel Jolly Pelagie Kaori Kuruva Winter Justine Sexy Scout Albane Daria Galatea Lolop Tigress Kelina Pony Pelagie Chemistry Nero Gardening Harmonia Extreme Alex Dark Mistress Matcha Woods Witch Salem Fuckland Gwenaelle Celia Candice Alex Pussywig Bruma Cockit Cheer Mika Cheer Ruriko Cheer Cynthia Jolly Rudolpha Jingle Holiday Kawaii Maid Tachibana Latex Maid Mala Lovestruck Guinevere Red Velvet Lolop Strawberry Molly Spring Cleaning Mikazuki Spring Cleaning Koemi Intern Albane Therapy Virginia Ferris Wheel Darla Mirror Shina Desert Dalila Night Out Radka Night Out Arabelle Exam Ombresse Jetta Kendra Fashion Cori Fashion Azana Kinky Cop Nika Light Selena Dark Mala Sasha Mad Scientist Kiara Angel of Darkness Estelle Metal Liu-Yeng Gothic Baroness Yami Meiko Nice Andra Naughty Lavender Ice Queen Winter Icy Christia Frostia Wolf Luna Professor Reko Lunar Momoko Lunar Derri Countess de Charmante Librarian Danielle Melodic Amelia Ignatia Millennia Ellery Haru Kiva Rika Survivor Liu-Yeng Alyssa Sage Vizir Radka Farah Lust Update Norou Lust Update Sheba Battle Bunna Navigator Selena Captain Piper Cyber Jenet Midsummer Sofia Midsummer Venus Kamen Kira Mikoshi Rumiko Bimbo Malai Phoebe Enchanted Salem Enchanted Levitya Akira Miu Mira Enchanted Filya Enchanted Esme Star Atina Sun Nike Moon Norou Galaxy Ananke Edited August 3, 2023 by Yamiray Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dudegrey Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 Equipment for girls was so well recieved, they decided to take it another step and give them skills too. Â Good thing there's only a dozen girls in the game and not 1000+ and thus it's not fifty layers of micromanagment. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EpicBacon Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 12 minutes ago, Dudegrey said: Equipment for girls was so well recieved, they decided to take it another step and give them skills too. Â Good thing there's only a dozen girls in the game and not 1000+ and thus it's not fifty layers of micromanagment. yeah, I hope they release some more girls soon, so I can get rid of starter Bunny from my lineup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamRei Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 (edited) Is there any way to get the purple lamps without paying cash? I mean more than the 2 in cumback contest. I think this was just to show how much worse than girl equip they have in them  Edit: I also don't quite get these numbers, I update Bunny to have 10% more, but she has 330.000 base, and with 10% it's 360.000, but 10% of 330.000 is NOT 30.000, it's 33.000. 11 hours ago, hihi1237823 said: For those that wonder about the income=bunny(base +flat)*(1+club+bulb) Edited August 3, 2023 by Ravi-Sama Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antimon Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 7 minuti fa, SamRei ha scritto: Is there any way to get the purple lamps without paying cash? I mean more than the 2 in cumback contest. I think this was just to show how much worse than girl equip they have in them the only "farmable" way is doing champion fights. The drop rate isn't very generous, though, and, in case you get a lightbulb to drop, it could be of any rarity. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garadron Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 12 minutes ago, SamRei said: Edit: I also don't quite get these numbers, I update Bunny to have 10% more, but she has 330.000 base, and with 10% it's 360.000, but 10% of 330.000 is NOT 30.000, it's 33.000. Bunny has the base of 300k. You get 10% from your club and 10% from the skill. 20% out of 300k is 60k so the total is 360k. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antimon Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 Aside from the fact the % main stat is probably the worst of the three skill nodes in Tier II to upgrade, do we know whether it is better to maximize the girl main stat or getting 200 total stat more by maximazing the third tier II skill node? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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