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[Observer_X]

On 5/12/2020 at 9:12 PM, blaa said:

And, i dont think, it will be a rare event to get her, obviously. Like for every other girl you just have to fight for her a few hundred times. If you have some time even the thousands of fights to get to tier 3 wont be a problem. Only because of the last epic days and some free days in between the events I already got around 80 levels (800 fights) on jacksons tier2. I am not seeing tier 3 too far to reach this year (if he will have tier 3 until then).

Winning stats aside, it seems to me that you are forgetting the amount of time that (at least in my opinion) many players will need to unlock tiers, an amount that could become a crippling factor. Taking into account the newcoming tier 2 and 3 of Sylvanus and Bremen, if you consider a long time player that at the time of the new tier feature introduction had already maximized the villain levels (thus founding himself already in tier 2 when the villain has it), to unlock every available tier 3 that player will need over 8000 battles. If you consider a new player that has still to unlock all the available tier 2, you will need to put in another 8000+ battles for that purpose. IMHO there are not many players (apart game whales, obviously) that will use combativity refills to fight those battles, at least out of events. With only free combativity (apart contests and leagues rewards), to clear 8000 battles a player needs more than 200 days. Moreover, upon unlocking a tier 3, on average 300-400 more battles are needed to obtain the tier girl, meaning another 2100 - 2800 battles for all the available tier 3 girls (counting another 50+ days, and more tiers are still to come). Even taking into account that almost for sure while unlocking all the tier 3 one will obtain all the relative tier 2 girls, IMHO 10k battles, (especially considering that the 250+ days needed to fought them, even taking into account the ones that will be consumed in events, will be subdivided over a much longer period of time) are quite a huge amount to obtain seven girls. Personally I had the luck to be one of the players with the villain level maximized when the new tier 2 were introduced, but up to now I was able to obtain only Xia from Donatien (toh, look at the case, the tier 2 girl that I like less together with Ornella) and I am still 190 battles away from unlocking his tier 3, and being him the one which I have the greatest progress (although I already obtained numbers of shards for Akhates, Ornella, Pirate Naisha, Bolt, Hima and Balista), it will take quite a long time for me to say that I have a good progress with tier 3 girls.

Note: before someone tries to jump at my throat, the above numbers are obviously rounded (as many forum dwellers may already know, normally I use numbers only to make better understand the concepts I am sharing, not to put out any would-be exact game analysis). Moreover, I wish to remark again that all of the above is just my opinion.

[blaa]

I get your point, but I dont share some of his assumptions, obviously. Firstly, your maths is from a new player perspective, my statement isnt. You may be right that most of the players playing this game could be new players, but I dont think so. Most of the players will have done at least a few hundred fights on the bosses already, more like a few thousands. The amount of days will drastically reduce the longer you are playing.

Secondly, I dont share the assumptions 250+ day is a long period for this game. Not sure how long it goes to complete the story for new players these days, but I needed over a year to reach the last world (ninja sacred lands at this time) and almost 2 years to level up all the villians and obtaining their girls (just recently finished). But newer players who have a simliar playstyle as I will have a bigger progress than I had, since they can fight tier2+3 right aways, since I lost a few thousands battle battling already maxed out villians. So, newer player will even have a higher chance to obtain more girls and more money from villians than I had. Also, until they get the chance to fight another villian (especially the later ones) they already have done a lot of fights.

Thirdly, playstyle. I dont think a lot of players play how you do. Most likely not many play as I do as well, but more will have a similar playstyle to mine than to yours. I spend in average 40-60 refills on villian girls a month just to complete the events. That's not a problem for a f2p player since there are some many easy to earn kobans. With this approach I fight the villians around 2500-3000 times a month, for 8000 battles I need 3 1/2 month, lets say 4 (even if you dont do a refill your estimation of 200 days for 8000 is way too high, it's most likely not more than 150 days with free fights (and that's too much of a difference to say it's just an estimation to make a point, then since the tiers are new almost every fight is counting for leveling up a villian, and dont worry, it isnt meant to throat jumping you, just to put some perspective on it). 4 month arent a long time regarding how long it takes you to level up your hero, finishing the storyline, upgrade your stats, girls, seeing a girl in a revival to get a second shot, etc. Why should it be for reaching tier2,3?

Finally, I dont think tier3 is meant to be for new players, obviously. It's more like tier 1 = new players, tier2 = mid tier players, tier3 = veterans. When I say it doesnt need a lot of time to reach tier3, I am talking, obviously, from a mid-tier/veteran player perspective (as I already pointed out). There are for sure some flaws in this classification, especially for the lower villian tiers (you most likely will max out DL before you can fight final mecia or jacksons crew).

4 hours ago, Observer_X said:

Moreover, I wish to remark again that all of the above is just my opinion.

It's the same on my side.

It's a shame that you (in a general meaning) have to say that every time. What else should it be than your opinion, an objective opinion? That would be a contradiction in terms, right? But sure, you have to say it, that nobody get's too emotional of your statement and feels attacked. So, I also say it a lot, even if it should be obvious.

Edited May 14, 2020 by blaa

[Observer_X]

16 hours ago, blaa said:

It's a shame that you (in a general meaning) have to say that every time.

Needed prudence. If you read some of my past posts elsewhere it happened more than once that some statings I made were misjudged as would-be-cast-gold-teachings about the absolute truth of the game, instead of pure opinions derived from my real game experience (despite the precisation, that I forgot in my last post, that I try to extrapolate those considerations putting aside my actual non-koban policy), and have been warned to avoid similar posts.

About your answer, as I said sometimes in the past, we could agree about the fact that we don't agree .

[fvtaxman]

@ChthughaHey I notice you are doing really well in the Girls category this week.  Way to Go!

Say I noticed a bit of un-usual.  I wonder if everything is okay?

Just now, one of the players gained 55 girls, from 37 to 92, in one reset.  That was alot!  Good for them!

Then i noticed the next two players, at that time, from Bulgaria, were very high on the week:  more than 70 each.  Yet they, both only started recently:  May 7 and May 11 I think.  So in 5 days over 70 girls?  that seems alot.

Just down the page a bit is another player from Bulgaria:  Level 999.  A bit higher than average.  this player started in April, last month.  His gear shows up as "none"

Idk if you know this already or are watching things.  But, I know you love the game as much as I do.  

Thanks!!

CC @GeorgeMTO

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[_shal_]

For those interested, the HH++ script received a somewhat major (and quite overdue, after half a year) update over the weekend.

Perhaps of relevance to the greatest number of players, the villain menu can now display which villain tiers still have girls available to obtain:

(Screenshot courtesy of @Darsca's alt on HH.com.)

Villains with event girls will also be highlighted correctly again; this got broken by a Kinkoid code change at the start of the Orgy Days last week.

In lesser news, the league battle simulation has been adjusted to treat the recently buffed charm class Narcissism proc correctly again.

Lastly, the script supports automatic updating to future versions again, should you wish to enable that in Tampermonkey/your script manager of choice. This update will still need to be added manually, however, from its location at https://pastebin.com/t3y82cvf. (That's the "main" page; the raw text version may be easier to copy-paste.)

Edit: I forgot to mention that the tier listings can be disabled in the script's options menu on the town page, if you prefer the cleaner traditional villain menu.

Edited May 19, 2020 by _shal_

[Observer_X]

That's really a pity that lately I am bound to play on Firefox and there for me the allowed userscript does not function...

[blaa]

7 hours ago, _shal_ said:

For those interested, the HH++ script received a somewhat major (and quite overdue, after half a year) update over the weekend.

Perhaps of relevance to the greatest number of players, the villain menu can now display which villain tiers still have girls available to obtain:

(Screenshot courtesy of @Darsca's alt on HH.com.)

Villains with event girls will also be highlighted correctly again; this got broken by a Kinkoid code change at the start of the Orgy Days last week.

In lesser news, the league battle simulation has been adjusted to treat the recently buffed charm class Narcissism proc correctly again.

Lastly, the script supports automatic updating to future versions again, should you wish to enable that in Tampermonkey/your script manager of choice. This update will still need to be added manually, however, from its location at https://pastebin.com/t3y82cvf. (That's the "main" page; the raw text version may be easier to copy-paste.)

I see, I havent updated it for some time, I guess. Could you explain (or give me a hint where I find an explanation) what exactly the league simulation says:

Does it mean, thatI will be left with 97k ego in average fighting this player with my current stats?

Edited May 19, 2020 by blaa

[GeorgeMTO]

18 minutes ago, blaa said:

I see, I havent updated it for some time, I guess. Could you explain (or give me a hint where I find an explanation) what exactly the league simulation says:

Does it mean, thatI will be left with 97k ego in average fighting this player with my current stats?

Yup, that's what it says. If you're interested in a blow by blow of the simulated battle, press F12 and look at the console.

[Caradog]

I doubt that it's necessary to post this - I've only interacted with a relatively small number of forum users - or that the Chit Chat section is the place to post it but, FYI, my old username, Bruce Buttfucker (chosen when I thought this would be a run-of-the-mill porn game), had become intolerably cringe-worthy so I've changed it to Caradog. 

[Damoncord]

Well, the daily start shift may have just screwed me out of the daily missions or out of more sleep with their changes.

[Varnart]

9 hours ago, Damoncord said:

Well, the daily start shift may have just screwed me out of the daily missions or out of more sleep with their changes.

sleep is for the weak!!!

[Varnart]

On 5/19/2020 at 2:59 PM, Caradog said:

I doubt that it's necessary to post this - I've only interacted with a relatively small number of forum users - or that the Chit Chat section is the place to post it but, FYI, my old username, Bruce Buttfucker (chosen when I thought this would be a run-of-the-mill porn game), had become intolerably cringe-worthy so I've changed it to Caradog. 

very cringe worthy, good change

[Zteev]

On 5/18/2020 at 4:58 PM, _shal_ said:

For those interested, the HH++ script received a somewhat major (and quite overdue, after half a year) update over the weekend.

Perhaps of relevance to the greatest number of players, the villain menu can now display which villain tiers still have girls available to obtain:

(Screenshot courtesy of @Darsca's alt on HH.com.)

Villains with event girls will also be highlighted correctly again; this got broken by a Kinkoid code change at the start of the Orgy Days last week.

In lesser news, the league battle simulation has been adjusted to treat the recently buffed charm class Narcissism proc correctly again.

Lastly, the script supports automatic updating to future versions again, should you wish to enable that in Tampermonkey/your script manager of choice. This update will still need to be added manually, however, from its location at https://pastebin.com/t3y82cvf. (That's the "main" page; the raw text version may be easier to copy-paste.)

Edit: I forgot to mention that the tier listings can be disabled in the script's options menu on the town page, if you prefer the cleaner traditional villain menu.

I never knew that that userscript had so many features. That makes picking battles very easy, actually. Might have to look into it.

[Darsca]

12 minutes ago, Zteev said:

I never knew that that userscript had so many features. That makes picking battles very easy, actually. Might have to look into it.

Just to clarify, that is Shal's own version, not the one currently pinned in the forum, which hasn't been updated in some time. So you'll have to come back here for it if you want it in the future. Although the stuff pinned here is in need of a serious overhaul and I ought to get round to updating it at some point.

[Zteev]

Got it, and thanks.

 

[_shal_]

Just about 13 months to get there from level 300 (which I reached on 2019/04/25).

[Zteev]

39 minutes ago, _shal_ said:

Just about 13 months to get there from level 300 (which I reached on 2019/04/25).

Congrats. I expect to get there this year sometime - at 386.

[Karyia]

9 hours ago, _shal_ said:

Just about 13 months to get there from level 300 (which I reached on 2019/04/25).

Congrats on another milestone 👌 Also, looking forward to see how it will translate on D3 (hopefully the gap to the higher levels will decrease, even if slowly).

Edited May 24, 2020 by Karyia
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[Falco82]

But in the end the story that there would be an event with Fabienne during the month was just a mockery to sponsor the cam girl site?

I have not even seen someone pretending to be her there, is it possible that these villain must always create big expectation which materialize into nothing?! 😓

[GeorgeMTO]

11 minutes ago, Falco82 said:

But in the end the story that there would be an event with Fabienne during the month was just a mockery to sponsor the cam girl site?

I have not even seen someone pretending to be her there, is it possible that these villain must always create big expectation which materialize into nothing?! 😓

The event was the camsite, nothing more, nothing less.

[Varnart]

almost at level 400 myself only 5 more

[jelom]

In this post in www.kinkoid.com

https://www.kinkoid.com/faq/known-and-fixed-issues/

the devs are updating (some) known bugs of hentai heroes and also have an historic (from 8th May onwards) of resolved bugs.

Perhaps one moderator could post and pin this info in the bug section of the forum.

I have always though it would be interesting to have a pinned and closed (only updated by moderators) post in the top of the bug section where the most frequent bugs or what some people think are bugs could be explained and so they don't have to answer the same questions multiple times.

[GeorgeMTO]

You mean like this one?

The problem is that people don't check for existing topics before posting

[jelom]

Thanks George. How could I have bypassed that link? 😵

[Observer_X]

I would like to express a point and humbly make a request to @GeorgeMTO and @Darsca in their vest of moderators.

Starting a few months ago, with the insertion (as I have understood) of new artists in the team, and the subsequent variations in the game art, people on the forum has started to comment about the change in art quality. Regardless the respective positions on that matter, the point here is that those discussions happens almost literally everywhere. I don't know how many people share this feeling, but, being not interested in the discussions on the aforementioned matter, I find quite annoying finding walls of text on the same matter in (countless) topics with more general (or even completely different) scope.

For this reason, I would like to ask to @GeorgeMTO and @Darsca (who, if I remember correctly, as forum moderators have this power) to create a "subsection of a subsection", for example an "About art" subsection under the "Feedback" subsection of the forum. In that location the numerous posters willing to discuss about the aforementioned matter will be free to create all the threads they wish to let off steam at their leisure without affecting other threads.